Huxley Associates

[northernladuk]

This is the kind of interaction I never thought I'd see on this board. We all have war stories about underhand tactics and fishing calls but I can't think of another opportunity to get contractor's viewpoints across to someone who can actually influence one of the larger recruiters like this. We're mainly posting anonymously, as opposed to Andy, but the symbiosis aspect is entirely correct. Having another thread that discusses some points would be a good idea in my opinion.

If it didn't just end up an agent bashing exercise with most posters not even making an attempt to understand their business and just complain about how we perceive it. Just because we don't like some of the things they do doesn't mean they are wrong unfortunately. There are good points to be made and lessons for the agents to learn I totally agree. Just calling them lying naughty boys isn't really going to help.

[northernladuk]

If it didn't just end up an agent bashing exercise with most posters not even making an attempt to understand their business and just complain about how we perceive it. Just because we don't like some of the things they do doesn't mean they are wrong unfortunately. There are good points to be made and lessons for the agents to learn I totally agree. Just calling them lying bastards isn't really going to help.

Oh!! I can say naughty boys in the prof forums!! Cool!!!!

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Oh!! I can say naughty boys in the prof forums!! Cool!!!!

30 seconds is not long enough for confirmation of that. I'm sure cojak will be along later to confirm or reprimand.

[Taita]

"I am very proud of the company I work for. SThree has changed over a number of years, the discipline of being a listed company and trading in as many diverse companies as we do means it makes business sense to do things properly.

You of course entitled to your own opinion on SThree, I just think having been with them since 1999 my view is more likely to be based on fact."

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'Been with them' sounds like you are not really embedded yet. Give a few more years and you may react as a Director should - as if you are them, not still outside them! Somebody mentioned deniability and I would suggest the statement I have quoted shows that you want to be liked rather than to take responsibility for the actions of your employees. What they do is done in the name of the Company, Shareholders and DIRECTORS. You cannot stand back from that as if you play no part in their activity.

[Andy Hallett]

'Been with them' sounds like you are not really embedded yet. Give a few more years and you may react as a Director should - as if you are them, not still outside them! Somebody mentioned deniability and I would suggest the statement I have quoted shows that you want to be liked rather than to take responsibility for the actions of your employees. What they do is done in the name of the Company, Shareholders and DIRECTORS. You cannot stand back from that as if you play no part in their activity.

No point messing with the semantics. I am part of SThree, and think of myself as an integral part of the company and it's growth.

As I have said before, I don't think we have an institutional problem, and where you guys highlight issues to me I will investigate and take the appropriate action.

[Andy Hallett]

Respectfully signing off on this thread.

Happy to discuss general questions here http://forums.contractoruk.com/busin...ask-agent.html

[cojak]

But thanks for joining in Andy.

And I've renamed the original 5-year old thread.

[northernladuk]

'Been with them' sounds like you are not really embedded yet. Give a few more years and you may react as a Director should - as if you are them, not still outside them! Somebody mentioned deniability and I would suggest the statement I have quoted shows that you want to be liked rather than to take responsibility for the actions of your employees. What they do is done in the name of the Company, Shareholders and DIRECTORS. You cannot stand back from that as if you play no part in their activity.

I think playing on exact words to bash him doesn't really help.

[Taita]

I think playing on exact words to bash him doesn't really help.

Once I had taken the time to consider a number of your comments on other issues I found I agreed with you most of the time but not on this post

Please be assured I am not being pedantic or manipulating semantics. I am referring to a state of mind. One belongs to the family and accepts familial responsibility (director) or does not (employee).

I accept that the man has done the right thing in coming onto the forum and speaking out. For that he has my admiration.

Also, I fully understand that it would be foolish for him to admit to the faults (all anecdotal and mainly anonymous) here but it was a rare 'not to be missed' opportunity to lay out our general (about agency practices) grievances.

On the other hand I realise that we (contractors) often are an equally annoying, dishonest, unscrupulous breed and that we often are the authors of our own bad experiences as you have commented.

[northernladuk]

Once I had taken the time to consider a number of your comments on other issues I found I agreed with you most of the time but not on this post

Please be assured I am not being pedantic or manipulating semantics. I am referring to a state of mind. One belongs to the family and accepts familial responsibility (director) or does not (employee).

I accept that the man has done the right thing in coming onto the forum and speaking out. For that he has my admiration.

Also, I fully understand that it would be foolish for him to admit to the faults (all anecdotal and mainly anonymous) here but it was a rare 'not to be missed' opportunity to lay out our general (about agency practices) grievances.

On the other hand I realise that we (contractors) often are an equally annoying, dishonest, unscrupulous breed and that we often are the authors of our own bad experiences as you have commented.

And you get all this from three words?

'Been with them' sounds like you are not really embedded yet.

Isn't exactly the strongest evidence to start making assumptions about some ones attitude to work is it.