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Alex Mann - I will never deal with again

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    #71
    What did I do

    I think my original post has started WW3 - can people calm down before fingers are sprained banging on their keyboards.

    To be honest - this whole thing is Chicken and the Egg - which came first!!

    Companies feel they are to busy to try to find a contractor directly - lets face it, there is a lot of pretenders out there who will send their CV for anything so they go to an agency or two to try and weed these ones out - fair enough. However, getting in an RPO (I only heard this term myself in the last week or so with my dealings with AMS) to deal with all aspects of their recruitment and resource finding totally limits them to what resources they can get. As a previous poster put it, AMS blocked his bid via an external agency for a lower - and perhaps better suited role - because they wished to put him forward for a higher role, and then didn't even bother to put him forward for the higher role.

    People have their own agenda's etc... I think I would rather work with an agency on a commision - as long as their cut is acceptable - than an RPO who I am sure are salaried with perhaps only a small amount or bonus from the end rate. The guy/girl on commission will be hungry and will try to make both sides happy - doesn't always work this way though, the guy/girl on a salary with an RPO will be on the side of their client every time, even if the client wishes something different. I am a prime example - I am getting a v.good rate for this role, really more than I wanted, this happend because there is some element of weekend work on this project (major upgrades) and I wanted some extra to cover this element, thats all, AMS went away and got me a flat rate all in per hour - at an amount I would of been happy with for the weekend element - this is being applied whenever I work for the client now and is costing them a hell of a lot more - hence the duration has been cut!!

    on a littler asside, in regards to Rates - I do believe that if you accept a rate and you find out the agency is taking a massive cut you really don't have a leg to stand on in regards to your money, but you do with regards to your client getting ripped of by the agency.

    Just my two penneth worth

    And I "Will never Deal with AMS ever again" (unless that is the only thing available at that time)

    Cheers

    Lawrenso

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      #72
      Lodge complaint for Alex Mann to the Business Enterprise and Regulation Bureau

      Employment bureaus Should investigate AMS. Complaints towards AMS can be kicked off via the 'Business Enterprise and Regulation Reform':

      http://www.berr.gov.uk/whatwedo/empl...page27003.html

      I have had problems dealing with them also. Promising contracts on behalf of their customers since their customers outsource to them.

      There's something fishy there.

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        #73
        Good luck lawrenso, but in all honesty, yours is a case study in how not to act. Never, under any circumstances jack with a client until the ink is dry on the new gig. They'll usually wait a week at the new gig if you explain the reasons why you've not given notice at the old gig. It's happened to me about 3 times and I've never lost a job by insisting on a signed contract before jacking. Others MMV of course.................
        Public Service Posting by the BBC - Bloggs Bulls**t Corp.
        Officially CUK certified - Thick as f**k.

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          #74
          The problem with a company like AM is that if you perform badly or p*** someone off the word is going to get around. If this happens (which is more than likely what happened to Denny) then no one in their right mind will admit it to you, so they will use every excuse under the sun other than tell the truth. I am not suggesting that this is the case as far as you guys are concerned but it is a possibilty.
          Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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            #75
            Anybody else notice that this thread is almost a year old?

            No?

            Just me then...

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              #76
              Originally posted by NickFitz View Post
              Anybody else notice that this thread is almost a year old?

              No?

              Just me then...

              Yeh I did, I got excited when I saw Denny's posts thinking she's back, then looked at the date!

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                #77
                Originally posted by SandyDown View Post
                Yeh I did, I got excited when I saw Denny's posts thinking she's back, then looked at the date!


                Narrow escape...

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by NickFitz View Post
                  Anybody else notice that this thread is almost a year old?

                  No?

                  Just me then...
                  I did. But so many old threads resurrected these days...

                  I still hope to see andyw threads around!

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by lawrenso View Post
                    So - has anybody else got a bad experience with AMS.
                    If you can call non-payment a bad experience then yes. I used the late payment legislation against them and they paid up for the penalties and interest, so not all bad!!

                    Originally posted by lawrenso View Post
                    How can an agency tote themselves as being independent when they actually email using the end clients @ address.
                    This is regular business practice and is a reflection of the working arrangements between the client and the agency. You can see how independent they are if you ever have to sue them. Watch the client distance themselves faster than the speed of light...
                    Older and ...well, just older!!

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