What did I do
I think my original post has started WW3 - can people calm down before fingers are sprained banging on their keyboards.
To be honest - this whole thing is Chicken and the Egg - which came first!!
Companies feel they are to busy to try to find a contractor directly - lets face it, there is a lot of pretenders out there who will send their CV for anything so they go to an agency or two to try and weed these ones out - fair enough. However, getting in an RPO (I only heard this term myself in the last week or so with my dealings with AMS) to deal with all aspects of their recruitment and resource finding totally limits them to what resources they can get. As a previous poster put it, AMS blocked his bid via an external agency for a lower - and perhaps better suited role - because they wished to put him forward for a higher role, and then didn't even bother to put him forward for the higher role.
People have their own agenda's etc... I think I would rather work with an agency on a commision - as long as their cut is acceptable - than an RPO who I am sure are salaried with perhaps only a small amount or bonus from the end rate. The guy/girl on commission will be hungry and will try to make both sides happy - doesn't always work this way though, the guy/girl on a salary with an RPO will be on the side of their client every time, even if the client wishes something different. I am a prime example - I am getting a v.good rate for this role, really more than I wanted, this happend because there is some element of weekend work on this project (major upgrades) and I wanted some extra to cover this element, thats all, AMS went away and got me a flat rate all in per hour - at an amount I would of been happy with for the weekend element - this is being applied whenever I work for the client now and is costing them a hell of a lot more - hence the duration has been cut!!
on a littler asside, in regards to Rates - I do believe that if you accept a rate and you find out the agency is taking a massive cut you really don't have a leg to stand on in regards to your money, but you do with regards to your client getting ripped of by the agency.
Just my two penneth worth
And I "Will never Deal with AMS ever again" (unless that is the only thing available at that time)
Cheers
Lawrenso
I think my original post has started WW3 - can people calm down before fingers are sprained banging on their keyboards.
To be honest - this whole thing is Chicken and the Egg - which came first!!
Companies feel they are to busy to try to find a contractor directly - lets face it, there is a lot of pretenders out there who will send their CV for anything so they go to an agency or two to try and weed these ones out - fair enough. However, getting in an RPO (I only heard this term myself in the last week or so with my dealings with AMS) to deal with all aspects of their recruitment and resource finding totally limits them to what resources they can get. As a previous poster put it, AMS blocked his bid via an external agency for a lower - and perhaps better suited role - because they wished to put him forward for a higher role, and then didn't even bother to put him forward for the higher role.
People have their own agenda's etc... I think I would rather work with an agency on a commision - as long as their cut is acceptable - than an RPO who I am sure are salaried with perhaps only a small amount or bonus from the end rate. The guy/girl on commission will be hungry and will try to make both sides happy - doesn't always work this way though, the guy/girl on a salary with an RPO will be on the side of their client every time, even if the client wishes something different. I am a prime example - I am getting a v.good rate for this role, really more than I wanted, this happend because there is some element of weekend work on this project (major upgrades) and I wanted some extra to cover this element, thats all, AMS went away and got me a flat rate all in per hour - at an amount I would of been happy with for the weekend element - this is being applied whenever I work for the client now and is costing them a hell of a lot more - hence the duration has been cut!!
on a littler asside, in regards to Rates - I do believe that if you accept a rate and you find out the agency is taking a massive cut you really don't have a leg to stand on in regards to your money, but you do with regards to your client getting ripped of by the agency.
Just my two penneth worth
And I "Will never Deal with AMS ever again" (unless that is the only thing available at that time)
Cheers
Lawrenso
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