Psychometric test for new contract - tell them to f-off?

[courtg9000]

IMHO only these tests are an absolute crock o's****
HR types love this stuff but that only goes to demonstrate their lack of intelligence with an apparent ability to blag budget for useless spending.
If you look at the back end of these its basically a crap generating set of IF statements that create claptrap. I'm sure you could engineer answering these to create hilarious scenarios if you wished.
I would politely tell them where to stick it.
Tell them to eff off but do it nicely.
In my pureplay contracting days I had a rule for potential contracts, you have my CV, you can have a chat with me for an hour after that the answer is no, tech tests, coding demos, free working mornings, psychometric claptrap definitely not.
One bank (little place near Knutsford) wanted a 3 hour interview and were told to stop after the hour and I walked out.

Quick question to the OP: Why wasn't a 3 slide powerpoint good enough on this one??!!!

[DrewG]

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Quick question to the OP: Why wasn't a 3 slide powerpoint good enough on this one??!!!

It wasn't the appropriate thing to do in this situation.


Have you never heard of tailoring your delivery and message to the audience?

[Snooky]

Quick question to the OP: Why wasn't a 3 slide powerpoint good enough on this one??!!!

LOL

[courtg9000]

It wasn't the appropriate thing to do in this situation.


Have you never heard of tailoring your delivery and message to the audience?

Yes I do it correctly all the time.

[Protagoras]

Psychometric testing of supplier's personnel on a B2B contract does not seem reasonable to me.

It's hard to imagine a large consultancy accepting that a client could test its consultants.

This would be appropriate for an employment relationship, though.

[jamesbrown]

In fairness to the client, I would absolutely tell DrewG to f-off via PPT presentation.

[DrewG]

In fairness to the client, I would absolutely tell DrewG to f-off via PPT presentation.

1. A prospect was looking to migrate from NetSuite to S/4HANA.
2. I drew up a few slides to walk through my experience doing exactly that, for another client, in the same industry vertical
3. My slides covered the key areas requiring focus, pitfalls specific to their operations etc.
4. The prospect turned into a client, and that same client is still with me, except I now run their systems as a managed service provider, they pay a fixed retainer for me and my 2 offshore staff to support their logistics operations on S4

I have three clients like the above while working as an independent contractor on the side.

If I can grow the operation, I won't need to ever speak to a recruiter again.

Continue to take the piss though, I've spent years working for leading firms, selling professional services. I now work independently across two timezones while many here are out of work for months at a time.

My contracting exposes me to the leadership of mid-sized firms that are growing. I often meet with PE firms and other investment/operator funds that own my contracting clients and that is how I network into deals that I can turn into long term retainers.

This is all over your head because you only understand how to shoot a CV into jobserve and beg the recruiter for a 20 quid uplift inside IR35.

[jamesbrown]

Continue to take the piss though

Thanks, we will.

[jamesbrown]

1. A prospect was looking to migrate from NetSuite to S/4HANA.
2. I drew up a few slides to walk through my experience doing exactly that, for another client, in the same industry vertical
3. My slides covered the key areas requiring focus, pitfalls specific to their operations etc.
4. The prospect turned into a client, and that same client is still with me, except I now run their systems as a managed service provider, they pay a fixed retainer for me and my 2 offshore staff to support their logistics operations on S4

By the way, I'm enjoying your style of posting enumerated lists without any hint of irony.

[malvolio]

1. A prospect was looking to migrate from NetSuite to S/4HANA.
2. I drew up a few slides to walk through my experience doing exactly that, for another client, in the same industry vertical
3. My slides covered the key areas requiring focus, pitfalls specific to their operations etc.
4. The prospect turned into a client, and that same client is still with me, except I now run their systems as a managed service provider, they pay a fixed retainer for me and my 2 offshore staff to support their logistics operations on S4

I have three clients like the above while working as an independent contractor on the side.

If I can grow the operation, I won't need to ever speak to a recruiter again.

Continue to take the piss though, I've spent years working for leading firms, selling professional services. I now work independently across two timezones while many here are out of work for months at a time.

My contracting exposes me to the leadership of mid-sized firms that are growing. I often meet with PE firms and other investment/operator funds that own my contracting clients and that is how I network into deals that I can turn into long term retainers.

This is all over your head because you only understand how to shoot a CV into jobserve and beg the recruiter for a 20 quid uplift inside IR35.

Whoop di doo....

I did a presentation to a fairly major supplier on how to analyse, remedy and operate their misfiring service function. Spent a lot of my time preparing it, did the presentation to a senior management team, never heard any more. However, mysteriously, my game plan seemed to have been taken on board and was being enacted some months later.

I've also done the same thing when working for a service provider to two or three of their prospects, this time on multi-million pound ITTs. Each one represented several thousands of pounds in effort and preparation. None were taken up, although there's a well known charity organisation out there with a really poor web-based service that is a rubbish implementation of one of those proposals that they got the lowest bidder to build.

It is possible to convert presentations to long term contracts (I've managed that as well in the past) but the conversion ratio in the real world is not that great. You have to be lucky and/or niche to do it reliably