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    #21
    Honestly, I would say you should have worked this out before you started. There are certain places you should expect this attitude and it needs to be built into the rate you negotiate.

    Personal I'd probably suck it up and leave at the end of my contract.

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      #22
      "There's an expectation"....

      Ask him if he expected you to tell him to get f****d.

      Thankfully I am in a position where I would neither apply for a role that advertised those hours up front, nor put up with any kind of shenanigans after signing a contract.
      Last edited by jmo21; 20 June 2023, 15:49.

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        #23
        Work aprox the hours, start looking and go when a better offer comes up. Start taking days off, have a long weekend Fri-Mon, couple of funerals, hospital appointments etc. Before you know it you'll be gone.
        But I discovered nothing else but depraved, excessive superstition. Pliny the younger

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          #24
          Just work your contracted hours until they fire you. In the meantime look for other gigs.
          Last edited by Robinho; 23 June 2023, 11:33.

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            #25
            Update

            I don't know if this help anyone but hopefully it will, so they avoid the same pitfalls.

            Couple of months in and the toxicity has evolved since I started.
            He's resorted to belittling me in front of others, having a pop or trying to embarrass me, and passive aggressive remarks/behaviour -he's also does these tactics with others in the team (sporadically), but a couple of people have come to me in private and told me 'He shouldn't talk to you or treat you like that' or 'You have a target'. I'm keeping my head down and doing my set hours but it seems to be getting worse. My view has been ignore and deliver (which I have & beyond) & still looking but the markets a bit dry, but still looking.

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              #26
              Originally posted by contractoradvice656 View Post
              Update

              I don't know if this help anyone but hopefully it will, so they avoid the same pitfalls.

              Couple of months in and the toxicity has evolved since I started.
              He's resorted to belittling me in front of others, having a pop or trying to embarrass me, and passive aggressive remarks/behaviour -he's also does these tactics with others in the team (sporadically), but a couple of people have come to me in private and told me 'He shouldn't talk to you or treat you like that' or 'You have a target'. I'm keeping my head down and doing my set hours but it seems to be getting worse. My view has been ignore and deliver (which I have & beyond) & still looking but the markets a bit dry, but still looking.
              Go back to my comment in post 6 and read some of the others before that. LEAVE. As it happens I've just left a similar environment and by god it feels good to be out. You won't realise how much of an impact this is having on you out of work. What's the number 2 reason for contracting behind pay? Flexibility and control. Use it and go. There is absolutely zero need for a contractor to stay in that environment. You are going to get shown the door at some point so take control and use the time to find a better gig and just go.

              Absolutely madness to ignore and deliver. That's the right approach up to a point and you are waaaaaay past that point.

              I spout some bullocks on here sometimes but trust meon this one. When you're 2 months in to a gig which you enjoy and where you are respected you'll look back and think 'What on earth was I thinking?' Contracts come and go, its what we do. Bin this one and move on.
              Last edited by northernladuk; 26 July 2023, 10:54.
              'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                #27
                northernladuk Thank you. I have been looking but the market is really dry/dead. Not ideal situation, but I will keep applying.

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                  #28
                  Presumably OP is an employee of an Umbrella Company or Agency, so the matter of notice period will arise when OP secures a new role, and I imagine that OP would like to leave asap at the point.

                  Absent giving notice and risking bench time, it may be prudent to

                  - keep a written log of the events for future reference

                  - obtain proper advice on how to walk away from this quickly without breaking the employment contract re notice period

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by contractoradvice656 View Post
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                    He's resorted to belittling me in front of others, having a pop or trying to embarrass me, and passive aggressive remarks/behaviour
                    Next time he does that, just say "What's your problem, did you not get it last night or something?"
                    Then deny saying it
                    If you don't have anything nice to say, say it sarcastically

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by contractoradvice656 View Post
                      Update

                      I don't know if this help anyone but hopefully it will, so they avoid the same pitfalls.

                      Couple of months in and the toxicity has evolved since I started.
                      He's resorted to belittling me in front of others, having a pop or trying to embarrass me, and passive aggressive remarks/behaviour -he's also does these tactics with others in the team (sporadically), but a couple of people have come to me in private and told me 'He shouldn't talk to you or treat you like that' or 'You have a target'. I'm keeping my head down and doing my set hours but it seems to be getting worse. My view has been ignore and deliver (which I have & beyond) & still looking but the markets a bit dry, but still looking.
                      Who is this bloke in terms of company structure? manager? team lead? also have you ever tried to confront him in an open forum? I know leaving is the best course of action in this scenario, but if there's no other work and you have a mortgage to pay it's easier said than done, so my solution would be to simply talk back to him, he might simply be playing a "tough guy" until you stand your ground and he might switch to an easier target (which I realise is tulip as well, but works for you).

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