The demise of Jobserve/Total Jobs etc for IT contracts

[TheDude]

In the future your only problem would be what what kind of meat flavour you would like on your crickets.

I don't like crickets.






















I love them.

[NotAllThere]

I loves it..

[SussexSeagull]

I suspect the reason fewer contract roles are advertised is that recruiters are bombarded with chancers who think doubling their income is as simple as flipping to contract work.

I think there is something in that. Don't get me wrong, I am far from unique in my skillset but when you hear of several hundred people applying for roles you do question how suitable some will be for it.

[avonleigh]

Don't know how you can say it's joserve and jobsite only. There are also a lot less jobs on linkedin. It's across the board, there just hasn't been any jobs around since Christmas unless you have some niche skills.

[GitMaster69]

Yes, chances are that it will be inside IR35 but if you are not pathological about tax efficiency or are one of these strange types that won't take an inside role for moral/religious/whatever reasons the an £850-£1000 a day inside role is better than a £500-£600 outside role.

Pathetic. This is contractor forum for entrepreneurs not pathetic no-rights-permie disguised employees

[SussexSeagull]

Don't know how you can say it's joserve and jobsite only. There are also a lot less jobs on linkedin. It's across the board, there just hasn't been any jobs around since Christmas unless you have some niche skills.

People are saying Jobserve has been in decline for years. The lack of contracts at the moment is fairly recent.

[rocktronAMP]

Pathetic. This is contractor forum for entrepreneurs not pathetic no-rights-permie disguised employees

Isn't the issue here that anecdotally there are far less Outside IR35 contracts advertised publicly in 2023 compared to 2019?
The only winner is the Revenue House.

Actually, the jump between contracting and permanent employment is lot closer, because of redundancy rules and unfair dismissal laws.

2 years employment
https://www.gov.uk/redundancy-your-r...redundancy-pay

2 years unfair dismissal
https://www.acas.org.uk/dismissals/unfair-dismissal

I now this is way off-track of the jobserve / jobsite discussion thread, however for permies there is asymmetric corollary to NLUK's axiom "a contract is only worth its notice period"

"a permie salary is only worth its notice period except when you reach 2 years employment"

Regardless, the only winners are the clients / employers and the Revenue House. So arguing about job bulletin boards and websites in the long run is getting to be irrelevant.

[Fraidycat]

Isn't the issue here that anecdotally there are far less Outside IR35 contracts advertised publicly in 2023 compared to 2019?

2021 was ok as was first half of 2022. Others have said things seemed to have markedly slowed since second half of 2022.

If so then in my opinion it is related to Bank or England and US Fed rate hikes and stopping of QE, which started in March 2022 and rates have been relentlessly increased ever since.

These rate increases also caused a Bear market in US tech stocks and S&P 500 and in the FTSE 250 here in the UK.

It is weird, many other parts of the economy have not been effected much at all (yet).

[PerfectStorm]

The 'undercurrent' market of roles is still healthy - well, not entirely heathy, but it's there.

The real value in Jobserve and co is in the roles you don't see on it

[brightondeveloper]

The amount of roles I am seeing seems to be picking back up but the response is still zero...