Next Ventures: agency does not pay to contractor.

[fre92]

If you are going to have a payment dispute you really need to read your contract and make sure you are aware of every clause related to it first.

Just curious: what makes you thinking I did not?

[WTFH]

1. Last day of month.
2. Last day of month.

OK, let me ask the questions again.

1. What date was your last timesheet signed & submitted?
2. What date did you submit your last invoice?

"Last day of the month" is not a date. 29/09/22 is a date. 15/08/21 is a date.

What was the date on your last invoice, and what date did you submit it.
What was the date of your last timesheet, and when was it signed and submitted?

(I have more questions, but I will hold back on them until these are answered)

[northernladuk]

Most?
Well, I was not aware of that. At least, for 10 years never see such term. Certainly not in my contract; may be for 6 digits or more it is usual but I am not such a big fish.

It's pretty standard as it protects the agencies from claims from the contractors if the client hasn't pain.
For example in this instance if the client hasn't paid the agency then they are under no obligation to pay you and you can't take them to court for it so it's pretty key. Makre sure you've read your contract. If your English isn't so strong get someone else to read it for you.

1. Last day of month.
2. Last day of month.
3. "Subject to Clauses 4(a) and (b), N-V shall pay all undisputed invoices by the 20 th of the month following the month in which the invoiced Services were provided."
Clauses 4(a) and (b) just say about how and when submit timesheet, invoice, etc. Nothing similar to "the agent will only pay after they have received payment"

He asked WHAT DATE, not when in the month. The date.

[Lance]

"Subject to Clauses 4(a) and (b), N-V shall pay all undisputed invoices by the 20 th of the month following the month in which the invoiced Services were provided."

Have you invoiced them yet? Or just relying on a timesheet to trigger payment?

[fre92]

Have you invoiced them yet? Or just relying on a timesheet to trigger payment?

Sure I did:

... the timesheet signed by client and submitted to the agency (Next Ventures) in time (last day of month), along with invoice. No any claim from client side.
Next Venture has never paid that invoice despite several reminreds.

[Snooky]

The reason for asking the question is because most contracts state that the agent will only pay after they have received payment.

I'm happy to be proven wrong but my understanding is that a clause like this is not enforceable unless the contractor has explicitly agreed to be outside the Agency Worker Regulations, and agreed to that prior to introduction to the client.

[fre92]

"Last day of the month" is not a date. 29/09/22 is a date. 15/08/21 is a date.

He asked WHAT DATE, not when in the month. The date.

Sorry for impoliteness but you again did not elaborate what matter the exact date does. Are there any legal restriction when I can claim my money?
Saying "last day of month" I mean there was no retard from my side. Does it make any difference was it 31st of August or 28th of February?

Makre sure you've read your contract. If your English isn't so strong get someone else to read it for you.

Seems it is not your strengh either:

Just curious: what makes you thinking I did not?

Well, I find THIS forum very strange, really.

[fre92]

I'm happy to be proven wrong but my understanding is that a clause like this is not enforceable unless the contractor has explicitly agreed to be outside the Agency Worker Regulations, and agreed to that prior to introduction to the client.

Thanks.
I can assure you in France such a clause is negligible, but I am aware the legal systems are different.

I am quite upset why members, who are supposed to be contractors like me and you, instead of sharing some information they have, not any specific secret know-how but probably publicly available, do instead question me as if I am tax evader, money loundrer, al qaeda sponsor and mentally challenged at the same time.

[WTFH]

Sorry for impoliteness but you again did not elaborate what matter the exact date does. Are there any legal restriction when I can claim my money?
Saying "last day of month" I mean there was no retard from my side. Does it make any difference was it 31st of August or 28th of February?

I asked a couple of simple questions, but you seem reluctant to divulge what should be simple information.
It makes a big difference the exact dates that events happened, and the dates on paperwork.
I've not even asked you how you submit the information to the client for signature, and how the client or you submit the timesheets to the agent, and likewise how you submitted your timesheets.
It may also make a difference if you are on monthly or weekly billing, and if it's monthly, is it calendar month or 4 week periods.

Dieu est dans les détails

[WTFH]

I'm happy to be proven wrong but my understanding is that a clause like this is not enforceable unless the contractor has explicitly agreed to be outside the Agency Worker Regulations, and agreed to that prior to introduction to the client.

You are correct, I believe.
But there's a lot of confusing comments and the flow of the contract seems odd - perhaps that is why NV are having issues - we've not even established currencies or anything like that yet.
The responses from fre92 seem vague. Did the contract start 4 months ago, or finish 4 months ago? How long did it run on for?
When asked a question they don't like, the response appears to be "why should I have to do that?"

I've done my best to be polite in responses, and rather than diving in with an answer which may be incorrect, I've tried to ask questions that might draw us towards giving a good answer. I am not suggesting fre92 is trying to commit any kind of tax evasion or terrorist sympathiser, but they seem to think that by asking for exact dates of when something happened, that I am somehow making that accusation.