Contract Inside IR35 = Anything Goes?

[Willy Win]

Once you've got your 28 day sick note, there's a chance the client may bin you off but you could also serve notice a day or two after you get it.

Would the sick note go to agency, hiring manager or both? My concern is also that I may not get 28 days as that is a long time.

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Would the sick note go to agency, hiring manager or both? My concern is also that I may not get 28 days as that is a long time.

Again you are stressing about this too much. Even if it’s 14 days you can get a second one but the reality is given your current state 28 days is plausible especially when it’s tied to ensuring you don’t need to return to that client as you be resigned

[SussexSeagull]

Not sure how getting a sick note came into everyone's thinking.

Hand in your notice then work the bear minimum on the grounds they worst they go do is get rid of you.

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Not sure how getting a sick note came into everyone's thinking.

Hand in your notice then work the bear minimum on the grounds they worst they go do is get rid of you.

Because we've read all the OP's posts and clearly you haven't

The sick note is to avoid painful discussions the OP doesn't want and to allow him to escape the contract.

[NotAllThere]

Because we've read all the OP's posts and clearly you haven't

The sick note is to avoid painful discussions the OP doesn't want and to allow him to escape the contract.

And because he may well be clinically sick so that going into work will make him sicker.

[agentzero]

Not sure how getting a sick note came into everyone's thinking.

Hand in your notice then work the bear minimum on the grounds they worst they go do is get rid of you.

Agree.

The best route is to cease caring and give your month notice, explaining the chaotic nature of the project. If you are direct then people respect you. Over the next 4 weeks, put in your expected hours and don't care what anybody else thinks.

Do the role you were hired for and state that's all you will be doing. Don't feel guilty, as you have nothing to feel guilty about.

Going down the other lines suggested sounds like a hassle. You are giving the required notice and will be doing the least amount of work possible, while also looking for other work and ensuring you are as professional and polite as possible.

Sounds like RBS/Natwest Group, which are one and the same really.

If you have the type of personality who avoids conflict, feels undue guilt easily and are at your wits end then by all means go down the doctor route. Look after yourself first and foremost.

For what it's worth, I've not worked inside IR35 but regularly refuse to do work and explain why: contracted role/project. Doesn't appear to have done me any harm. I wouldn't work at RBS Natwest again for this reason unless I was at the begging bowl in terms of cashflow.

[SussexSeagull]

If he is ill then don't hesitate to see a Doctor and if necessary remove themselves from the environment that is causing problems but from what I have read here they don't come across as the sort of organisation who are going to take too much notice of a sick not for a contractor.

Serve notice. If you can't go in for medical reasons then don't but don't let the cart pull the horse.

[Willy Win]

Anti slavery laws prevent you being forced to work. What's the worst that happen if you simply email the agency and say life's too short for this rubbish, and you're terminating the contract with immediate effect?

I'm assuming the worst that can happen is that the umbrella company does not pay me for the weeks I have worked and the agency sues me for breach of contract. How likely is this to happen and has anyone been the subject of legal action? That could cause even greater problems.

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Well the umbrella is your employer and needs to pay you for those weeks - that's the rules but they may get away with only paying you minimum wage if the agency doesn't pay them.

And the agency can only sue the umbrella for payment which won't get very far

Equally it's been a week what did you do last Monday?

[BlasterBates]

I wouldn't hand in a sick note. I personally would recommend to simply stop "caring" and work methodically. If you're really desperate then hand in your notice. But remember this is a big client.

In my experience working under stress is "normal" and sure it only happens in a minority of contracts or permanent jobs but is something you'll repeatedly face from time to time, particularly in the new "agile" age.

The pressure is purely psychological, no-one is expecting superhuman feats of doing the jobs of 3 permies at the same time. They just need someone to sort out issues and answer e-mails. At 17:00 you can down tools and answer the e-mails in the morning. If someone shouts at you respond professionally, and distance yourself from the melee.

If you rise above it then you'll be able to command high rates in the banking world.