Rate negotiation, recruiter trying it on?

[northernladuk]

In my experience, it's nearly always the agent.

And I'd also be tempted to go with this as well unless there is a fixed margin in place. That said my current client expects a ten or so percent cut on the first renewal. My agent swallowed some of it but had to pass some of it on. The first time I was here I was highly sceptical when the agent told me this but it's the second time it's happened and it's a consultancy this time so seems legit. So I know clients can push it but I'd still default the blame to the agent until proven otherwise.
Thankfully it's only the first renewal. Pretty smart move to be fair.

[SussexSeagull]

It has got to the stage now I hardly take any notice of my end date as it tends to either get terminated early because they have run out of money or you are renewed to finish the project.

If you have got nothing else on the go I would be tempted to have a safety first policy but if you aren't that desperate spin the dice.

[NotAllThere]

And I'd also be tempted to go with this as well unless there is a fixed margin in place. That said my current client expects a ten or so percent cut on the first renewal.

I remember when renewal was a time for a ten percent increase.

[cannon999]

For my first contract the agent tried his utmost best to convince me that 495 is the best the client can do (I wanted 500). I have already been through the interviews and I knew that my skillset was a perfect match. I smelt bulltulip so I called him on it and said that I cannot accept a lower rate than what I have asked for. He huffed and puffed about his manager not allowing him to stretch any further than 495 but after I thanked him for the opportunity and said my goodbyes quickly changed his tune and found the missing £5.

[Lance]

For my first contract the agent tried his utmost best to convince me that 495 is the best the client can do (I wanted 500). I have already been through the interviews and I knew that my skillset was a perfect match. I smelt bulltulip so I called him on it and said that I cannot accept a lower rate than what I have asked for. He huffed and puffed about his manager not allowing him to stretch any further than 495 but after I thanked him for the opportunity and said my goodbyes quickly changed his tune and found the missing £5.

Great skills. Look after those fivers... bet you wish you’d asked for £525.

[jayn200]

For my first contract the agent tried his utmost best to convince me that 495 is the best the client can do (I wanted 500). I have already been through the interviews and I knew that my skillset was a perfect match. I smelt bulltulip so I called him on it and said that I cannot accept a lower rate than what I have asked for. He huffed and puffed about his manager not allowing him to stretch any further than 495 but after I thanked him for the opportunity and said my goodbyes quickly changed his tune and found the missing £5.

Your first contract? You probably tripled your take home and you almost lost it over 100 a month gross?

[rootsnall]

For my first contract the agent tried his utmost best to convince me that 495 is the best the client can do (I wanted 500). I have already been through the interviews and I knew that my skillset was a perfect match. I smelt bulltulip so I called him on it and said that I cannot accept a lower rate than what I have asked for. He huffed and puffed about his manager not allowing him to stretch any further than 495 but after I thanked him for the opportunity and said my goodbyes quickly changed his tune and found the missing £5.

If I think the agent is pulling a fast one but I don't want to rock the boat and risk losing the contract then I've taken the contract unchallenged. Get your feet under the desk and find out what the client is paying and then if there is scope for it play hardball with the agent in mid contract. I've had it work and I've also failed but nothing ventured...…. Probably not a goer in the current climate.

[eek]

If I think the agent is pulling a fast one but I don't want to rock the boat and risk losing the contract then I've taken the contract unchallenged. Get your feet under the desk and find out what the client is paying and then if there is scope for it play hardball with the agent in mid contract. I've had it work and I've also failed but nothing ventured...…. Probably not a goer in the current climate.

It's a goer if the end client knows what you are doing so ignores the "I'm sorry but he's resigned" phone call that the agent will try and make.

[rootsnall]

It's a goer if the end client knows what you are doing so ignores the "I'm sorry but he's resigned" phone call that the agent will try and make.

I think this only applies when the agent has told lies and doesn't want the client involved or knowing about it.

[cannon999]

Your first contract? You probably tripled your take home and you almost lost it over 100 a month gross?

When I was junior I once got a payrise which bumped my pay by 4.5k but I wanted a payrise of 6k. I demanded the difference but was told there is no budget and it is already good money. 4 weeks later I found a job that paid extra 12k and put my notice in. The original employer countered and matched the 12k. You should get paid what you think you are worth.