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Not extending - how to discuss with clientco

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    #11
    Just as an aside, while I totally get why you did what you did (And, when all said and done, you've got to look after yourself first and foremost) I've found pushing back on a decision is the way to rate rises or at least more respect/understanding that you have options. Most people hiring contractors are permies with a permie mindset and I think it's good to remind them that you're there because it suits, not because you're worried about the mortgage.

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      #12
      Always wise not to commit if you can because of this. Makes it difficult.

      Then there are some clients who "assume" you're staying regardless. As if you're lucky to be working there. There winds me up a little. Fair play if you want me to stay at least say so but then ensure I'm happy with the deal as well.

      Last client was clever. Sorted renewal out about 3/4 weeks before end so I had no chance to look around. Fair play to them. Those that can't be arsed and leave it until the day before - don't moan if I sort something else out. (I'm sure Ive mentioned the client who did this every time but was convinced - I told them about 10 times - that I had to give a months notice not to renew. WTF?).

      As I'm sure everyone has, I've had a verbal promise of renewal that fell through a day or two before the end.
      Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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        #13
        Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
        As I'm sure everyone has, I've had a verbal promise of renewal that fell through a day or two before the end.
        Nope. Not me.
        'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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          #14
          Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
          Nope. Not me.
          I normally get the verbal promise, then the panic that they never actually sorted the paperwork and the disappointment that I'm now mowing the lawn instead.

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            #15
            Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
            Always wise not to commit if you can because of this. Makes it difficult.

            Then there are some clients who "assume" you're staying regardless. As if you're lucky to be working there. There winds me up a little. Fair play if you want me to stay at least say so but then ensure I'm happy with the deal as well.

            Last client was clever. Sorted renewal out about 3/4 weeks before end so I had no chance to look around. Fair play to them. Those that can't be arsed and leave it until the day before - don't moan if I sort something else out. (I'm sure Ive mentioned the client who did this every time but was convinced - I told them about 10 times - that I had to give a months notice not to renew. WTF?).

            As I'm sure everyone has, I've had a verbal promise of renewal that fell through a day or two before the end.


            Generally, this. Any client with an intent to extend should let you know sooner rather than later; it's in their own interests for continuity's sake. I've had one that was left stunned because they'd not mentioned an extension and on the Wednesday before I was due to finish finally mentioned it after I'd already sorted something else out, mainly because I felt the next contract there was a bit of a direction change, heading straight up Highway IR35.
            The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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              #16
              I've just spoken with them at clientco and they were great. They wanted to know what I'd be doing next so I told them (head of IR35 at HMRC ). They wished me all the best and asked if I could recommend a replacement. Couldn't've gone any better.

              Not sure why I was fretting about this over the weekend.

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                #17
                Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                Nope. Not me.
                Need a client first eh...
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by PerfectStorm View Post
                  Need a client first eh...
                  Nah, plenty of clients.. Just don't seem to every get offered an extension, not even verbal. I must work really fast as they normally let me go early.
                  'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by HugeWhale View Post
                    I've just spoken with them at clientco and they were great. They wanted to know what I'd be doing next so I told them (head of IR35 at HMRC ). They wished me all the best and asked if I could recommend a replacement. Couldn't've gone any better.

                    Not sure why I was fretting about this over the weekend.

                    Sounds like you've managed to keep them on side, which is always a bonus when these things happen. Even if to only reduce risk of hassle getting final time sheet signed or agency delaying/threatening to not pay up if they think you've acted 'unprofessionally'.

                    Bonus being you can now accept offers from benched CUKers to help the client fill the vacancy, and get a cut of the first month's invoice cash in hand.
                    Maybe tomorrow, I'll want to settle down. Until tomorrow, I'll just keep moving on.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                      Just don't seem to every get offered an extension, not even verbal.
                      Is there such a thing as an extension in full-time employment, permieladuk?

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