Originally posted by ChrisHadfield
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Opt-in and Opt-out: Need advice still on my first contract (I won't renew after end)
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Originally posted by ChrisHadfield View PostHi Stek,
Do you mean you have opted-in every time? This is one of the larger agencies as well.
One risk is that - thanks to a ruling by the relevant Department - companies are free to choose who to trade with and under what conditions. Make a fuss and the gig will mysteriously disappear.
(BTW you can't opt in. You're in unless you correctly opt out before introduction to the client. Snag is, nobody has defined "introduction" and naturally we have a different view to the agencies about when this has occurred.)Blog? What blog...?Comment
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Originally posted by malvolio View PostBest advice is to ignore it anyway. The chances are very high that the agency hasn't met the criteria necessary to allow you to opt out so you'll be in anyway. If the "opting out" form has arrived with the contract after being accepted for the gig it's already too late so sign it and ignore it.
One risk is that - thanks to a ruling by the relevant Department - companies are free to choose who to trade with and under what conditions. Make a fuss and the gig will mysteriously disappear.
(BTW you can't opt in. You're in unless you correctly opt out before introduction to the client. Snag is, nobody has defined "introduction" and naturally we have a different view to the agencies about when this has occurred.)The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't existComment
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An experienced contractor I worked with said he opted out as it implies financial risk, therefore another argument against being caught IR35.
Make of that what you will, I'm waiting for my curry to cool down.
qhHe had a negative bluety on a quackhandle and was quadraspazzed on a lifeglug.
I look forward to your all knowing and likely sarcastic and unhelpful reply.
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostDoes the client contacting you directly, offering the gig to you then putting you in touch with their agency count as an introduction? I opted out for ease and for it being worth the sheet of paper it was printed on.
That effort had the desired effect before, but I just didn't have the fight in me this time aroundThe Chunt of Chunts.Comment
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Originally posted by quackhandle View PostAn experienced contractor I worked with said he opted out as it implies financial risk, therefore another argument against being caught IR35.
Make of that what you will, I'm waiting for my curry to cool down.
qh'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by Andy Hallett View PostThe opt in / opt out debate - oh how I’ve missed you"You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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By making a point of opting in means the agency has to satisfy the regulations which may push your contract within IR35. There is nothing important you get from the regulations which you can't get without it. As London Manc says you can ask for weekly payments. Some contractors think they're covered by the regulations because they haven't specifically opted out, but it's more complicated than that as anyone not under direct control of the client is automatically not covered, i.e. for it to be worth it everything in the regulations should be written into your "temporary employment" contract. Personally I wouldn't want a contract that reads like a temporary employment contract.I'm alright JackComment
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Originally posted by BlasterBates View PostBy making a point of opting in means the agency has to satisfy the regulations which may push your contract within IR35. .'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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