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  • Plonitus
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    eTeam Just Contacted Me

    I love the lists provided on the forum listing Indian Recruitment Consultancies. Just had eTeam contact me needless to say I sent them on their way with a suitable repose of diplomacy!

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  • Eirikur
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    Originally posted by Michail View Post
    Let me share my experience with Mindtree quickly...

    Dude approaches me from Linkedin, to find out if i am available for Service Desk role. My 3rd Line contract was running out so i said, due to covid anything goes. I agree and he calls me from India through a voip phone , London number..

    We agree to go forward and he even agreed on outside IR35. He refuses to say who the client is and he arranges a technical interview. The client he said will be revealed there.

    I hop on in the call with another dude after a few days and he goes full technical questioning me on SCCM/AD which where i am an SME. I smash it with flying colors and i ask him why are you interviewing for SCCM ? I was told that the role is 1st/2nd line fully remote... He was just waffling blah blah... BS.. I asked him who his client is and he refused to say. By the way, i knew who he was as the idiot put it on the Teams meeting header.

    So that was 2 months ago. Then the first guy got back to me saying that they are waiting for confirmation from the client for my start day..

    If any of you have heard from them so have i... LOL
    Looks like you gave them a free training.

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  • Eirikur
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    Originally posted by Michail View Post
    New addition : SidTech Ltd
    Was already on the list

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  • Highland
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    Quantumworld:

    Contact via LinkedIn - persistent. Remote role for large pharma co. Quoted high rate as figured was a ruse.

    1st call - with HCL reps. "technical" questions.
    2nd call - direct with end client.

    Didn't hear back - my rate too high / me being useless a factor.

    Another front for HCL not on list:
    Contact via LinkedIn - persistent. Remote role for large pharma co. Different one. Quoted normal rate.

    1st call - with HCL reps. As above.
    2nd call - direct with end client.

    Contract offer has hit my inbox but I am asking for SDS' now for new contracts and this seems to have confused them. Agent thinks that as client office is based in central Europe that no need. Not withstanding that client has UK presence and agent is also registered in the UK.

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  • Michail
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    Let me share my experience with Mindtree quickly...

    Dude approaches me from Linkedin, to find out if i am available for Service Desk role. My 3rd Line contract was running out so i said, due to covid anything goes. I agree and he calls me from India through a voip phone , London number..

    We agree to go forward and he even agreed on outside IR35. He refuses to say who the client is and he arranges a technical interview. The client he said will be revealed there.

    I hop on in the call with another dude after a few days and he goes full technical questioning me on SCCM/AD which where i am an SME. I smash it with flying colors and i ask him why are you interviewing for SCCM ? I was told that the role is 1st/2nd line fully remote... He was just waffling blah blah... BS.. I asked him who his client is and he refused to say. By the way, i knew who he was as the idiot put it on the Teams meeting header.

    So that was 2 months ago. Then the first guy got back to me saying that they are waiting for confirmation from the client for my start day..

    If any of you have heard from them so have i... LOL

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  • Michail
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    New addition : SidTech Ltd

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  • Jonas230
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    Identity fraud?

    I have had a number of these calls from mostly from Indian recruiters
    All from UK numbers some really bad quality voip numbers.
    The statements in this thread are familiar they stress through
    A list of skills for what they say is a well known client in the UK
    Sweden or Belgium working from home and contract via ltd.
    Then after you have given them permission to represent you
    And send off cv (where they sound as the job is practically yours) total silence. In one instance I was contacted back saying that
    The client had "gone for an internal talent".

    I don't want to sound paranoid but I wonder if they just hoover up a bunch of UK based CVs and then actually hire their own Indian people and as it is WFH due to pandemic the end company thinks they are getting the job done by a British/Belgian/Swedish contractor when infact the work is done in an IT sweatshop on Bangalore.
    The potential security issues are enormous if this is true.

    It would be interesting to know if anyone actually get one of these "jobs".

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  • frlynnlives
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    Yep! Currently being got by this Scam. I am at second interview and for weeks; they went through a bizare phase of sabortaging their own interview process . They would give me short notice time slots and then cancel . We finaly have a date set for next week, but I am really not motivated at all. It feels like I am being set up.


    Originally posted by shabak View Post
    It seems its now even harder - as many consultancies work like this UK Consultancy->Indian Agency->Client. So you may be tricked and find out at the time of the interview that actually there is still Indian crappy agency that will use your profile to trick the client...
    In hindsight, I should have done exactly what you did: nip it in the bud. Instead, I have entertained these people probably over 100 times during this the age of Covid alone.

    There is definately some regulations scam happening when it takes 3 Companies to hire one person.


    Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
    Funny you say this, had today a conversation with a well known Uk and European agency who refused to name the end client but said the interview will be with TCS, but when I made some noises like I'm not very happy with that, he assured me "you won't be working for them, they are just an intermediary, you will be working for the end client", ok sounded dodgy but agreed to have the interview, The first thing they said in the interview, you will be working for TCS, so I finished the interview within 3 minutes.
    I am currently at the second stage of interviews with such an arrangement: UK Agencie >> Indian Professional Services Company >> European end client .

    The uk agent let slip that the Indian company currently has a certain stratergy: Everyone was sent off site to work from home during Covid. For new projects, they are scouering every inch of Eastern Europe for cheap WFH staff. I bet this is half the story . Any way, he told me this to soften me up to accept the same rate as they may expect to pay an Eastern European . It all sounds so shady. There must be some reason why they are now working with UK agents and it is probably some regulatory scam.


    Originally posted by Lance View Post
    Don’t be ridiculous.


    Why would a client engage an Indian agency, to pay consultancy rates?

    And why would a consultancy let an agency dip into their profit margin?
    I have recently started to follow your lead: hang up if I hear a strong Indian accent.

    Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
    They have become a real pest over the last couple of days. Now also calling from what look like Birmingham numbers, also on the bankholiday (more proof they are actually calling from India else they would have known it was a bankholiday)

    Some examples from the last couple of days including bankholiday Monday
    Smartedge (3 different callers/emailers about the same role)
    Aguila same role as above
    L&G same role as above

    I now hang up immediately if I hear a strong Indian accent The blocked number list keeps growing and growing
    Mate,

    They suck the life out of me. Something to do with the way they speak English. Its not the worst English in the world, but there is also something desperately off about it .


    Originally posted by TheLastWinja View Post
    I get contacted by Indian recruitment firms for London based FS roles all the time. The conversation always goes something like this:

    Agent: I have a contract with a prestigious client in London for 6 months. Tell me, what would be your day rate for this assignment?
    Me: I'd have to know more about it.
    Agent: As I say, it is a BA role for a prestigious banking client in London. What would be your day rate for this assignment?
    Me: I tell you what, why not send me spec and if it's my sort of thing I'll let you know and also what my rate would be.
    Agent: I will send you a specification when I have it but what is your rate?
    Me: Well I can't tell you until I see the role. I don't even know if my background is suitable since you haven't even given me a single detail.
    [Sometimes this can get to the point where I just hang up on them

    Half the time after that, a spec isn't forthcoming and on the off-chance that one is and I'm interested the rate is pitched at 25-30% below what you would expect from a non-Indian agency.

    Of course sometimes I've been between roles so you do what you must, only for the £450/d initially agreed to suddenly get dropped to £400 when the client shows interest. I also strongly suspect that the agent is either a) trying to gauge the market rate and/or b) trying to get you to "apply" but not submit you so their favoured (i.e. cheaper) candidates are the only ones the client gets face time with.

    Contacts at end clients say that contractors through these firms (who are always recruiting for on-site 'consultancies)' say the following:

    1) The contractors are whipped like Tennessee cotton pickers
    2) There is always downward pressure on rates at renewal time. Rate risers are unheard of.
    3) Contractors are used to train their permies so you can be shown the door.
    4) Forget any kind of work flexibility like early finishes a few days a week to pick your kid up from day care or WFH. Trust in the contractor is rock bottom. SDC is very high.

    Conversations I've had with specialist UK recruiters in the same space echo those points.

    My opinion - sometimes we do what we must, but given the choice I'd steer a wide berth.

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  • Eirikur
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    updated list:

    Adroit People Ltd
    Aguila consulting
    AlphaYotta
    Avance Consulting
    Axiom Software Solutions Limited
    Bluepace
    Code Convergence
    Cubestech
    Dabster Systems UK Limited
    Damcosoft
    Data Inc UK
    eTeam
    First Tek Inc.
    HyreU-UK Limited
    Infinity Quest
    Infoplus Technologies UK Ltd
    IxCeed
    JK Technosoft Ltd
    L & G recruitment
    M-Power plus
    Nityo Infotech
    NP Tech Solutions Limited
    OneSource (pretend to call from Belgium)
    Orbit resourcing
    Quantumworld
    Reliason
    SidTech
    SilverLink
    Smartedge Solutions Ltd
    Staffing Prime
    Test Yantra Software solutions
    TESTQ Technologies Ltd
    TGC World
    Ubique Systems UK Limited
    Winborough Technologies

    Added AlphaYotta

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  • Eirikur
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    Originally posted by frlynnlives View Post
    Lately some of the British agencies are on the same hustle on behalf of TCS/Indra/Wipro . From now on, I will bounce them. Very sad for them to be doign this in this day and age.
    Funny you say this, had today a conversation with a well known Uk and European agency who refused to name the end client but said the interview will be with TCS, but when I made some noises like I'm not very happy with that, he assured me "you won't be working for them, they are just an intermediary, you will be working for the end client", ok sounded dodgy but agreed to have the interview, The first thing they said in the interview, you will be working for TCS, so I finished the interview within 3 minutes.

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