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Got the Chop, now what ?

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    #31
    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
    Correct but I think there needs an element of clarification here.

    Was the OP walked simply because he wasn't a cultural fit? Is it safer to walk away because the real reasons may hurt/be more brutal? Are the ClientCo choosing to let him go because other people couldn't get on with OP (hint, permie wins 99/100 times on this one).
    Basically level of technical documentations was good that I produced as the client used them to drive the project further. The dilemma was that much of the project resource were all from a BAU background and didnt fit the mould for the project environment. There were confusions when I talked within project terms, like how the requirements would drive the Solution design etc. The level of IT maturity in the org was very poor, the Database Administrator was mistaken for a SQL Developer. So he didnt know Jack what to do with the Requirements specification I produced. The aim was to build a Database in a SQL Environment, I couldnt move from a BA role to trainer or educator and TRY to make them understand it was just too hard. The PM didnt have the right permie resource for the work, not sure seems like they made a pack and got rid of me, the reason was "We dont understand him".

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      #32
      Square peg in round hole finds it impossible to adjust to the different circumstance and requirements...
      merely at clientco for the entertainment

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        #33
        Originally posted by eek View Post
        Square peg in round hole finds it impossible to adjust to the different circumstance and requirements...
        But in OPs case OK it didnt work out and he wasnt suited. BUT sounds like he did nothing too badly wrong.....

        OK. It didnt work out from clients point of view. It happens. Seems bit unfair to not pay him notice.
        Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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          #34
          Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
          But in OPs case OK it didnt work out and he wasnt suited. BUT sounds like he did nothing too badly wrong.....

          OK. It didnt work out from clients point of view. It happens. Seems bit unfair to not pay him notice.
          He is a contractor and subject to no mutuality of obligation. If there is no work for him to do that's it. While the contract may or may not continue, there is nothing for him to do and nothing for which the company needs to be pay him....

          Look at it as a nice pointer to being outside IR35, move on and find another contract...
          merely at clientco for the entertainment

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            #35
            Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
            But in OPs case OK it didnt work out and he wasnt suited. BUT sounds like he did nothing too badly wrong.....

            OK. It didnt work out from clients point of view. It happens. Seems bit unfair to not pay him notice.
            Bit harsh, but if he's not the right "tool" for the job, why keep paying for him?

            That said, you've got to look at the interviewer and wonder what they were doing taking on someone so clearly not in tune with the corporate culture.
            The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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              #36
              Why does PC insist in everything having to be fair? It's business and it's in the contract
              Why does fair always have to come in to it. Sounds more like a disgruntled employee than a contractor.
              'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                #37
                Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                Why does PC insist in everything having to be fair? It's business and it's in the contract
                Why does fair always have to come in to it. Sounds more like a disgruntled employee than a contractor.
                He does have a point; Client took the guy on and he's shown them up a bit. We clearly don't know the delivery and bedside manner involved so it's all a bit moot really.
                The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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                  #38
                  True, this highlights one of the downsides of contracting.

                  Contracting should continue to offer a higher financial reward than permanent employment for a similar skills set/role. It's the price the client should pay for the flexible workforce that allows them to not have to pay notice periods or sick leave or holidays, or have permies sat around as a fixed cost between projects.

                  The government may see their meddling as making it 'fairer' regarding tax but their blinkered view makes contracting less attractive and pointless for many that just want to get paid for using their skills set and aren't that bothered about the upsides of contracting.
                  Maybe tomorrow, I'll want to settle down. Until tomorrow, I'll just keep moving on.

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                    #39
                    FTFY
                    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
                    He does have a point; Client took the guy on and he says he has shown them up a bit. However, he has trouble stringing simple sentences, in English, together, so who knows what to believe.
                    The Chunt of Chunts.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View Post
                      FTFY
                      True to an extent but my point was that if his bedside manner isn't up to scratch then he could be shown the door for it.
                      The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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