Is recruitment agent bluffing

[garnet]

No they use two different agencies. Contract is for big engineering firm in oil and gas sector and the project they have would last till 2022 but initial contract length is 6 months.

Beware. O&G sector is sinking fast. You will get dumped long before 2022 (probably even before the 6 months).
BTW day rates went down by a lot, but still, £320/day is low.

[eek]

Beware. O&G sector is sinking fast. You will get dumped long before 2022 (probably even before the 6 months).
BTW day rates went down by a lot, but still, £320/day is low.

Yep. It's perfectly possible that there are now people willing to accept £40 an hour having sat on the bench for 6 months

[sdyson31]

Beware. O&G sector is sinking fast. You will get dumped long before 2022 (probably even before the 6 months).
BTW day rates went down by a lot, but still, £320/day is low.

Yes i am aware of oil & Gas sector as i have been working in this sector for over three years now.

Agency rang me this afternoon saying client has forwarded my emails to them, i had a long chat with one of the senior member in the agency and i explained everything. They were apologetic and requested me not to contact the client directly.

Some people don't like the idea of contacting client directly on this forum and i fully understand their views but i am bit relax now and have no doubts about rates as client has confirmed the final offer.

I will think about it and do my calculation, £350 a day would have been a lot better as market rate is £400 a day.

[SlipTheJab]

Yes i am aware of oil & Gas sector as i have been working in this sector for over three years now.

Agency rang me this afternoon saying client has forwarded my emails to them, i had a long chat with one of the senior member in the agency and i explained everything. They were apologetic and requested me not to contact the client directly.

It is very clear now and i know where i stand and what is the actual offer. I will think about it and do my calculation, £350 a day would have been a lot better. Market rate is £400.

Did you ask the agent why they had led you to believe that 50 notes an hr would be fine when it obviously never was.

[sdyson31]

Did you ask the agent why they had led you to believe that 50 notes an hr would be fine when it obviously never was.

yes i did ask them this same question, they said i was put forward on £55 an hour rate just to be in better position to negociate the final rates. I don't know if it is true or not.

[garnet]

yes i did ask them this same question, they said i was put forward on £55 an hour rate just to be in better position to negociate the final rates. I don't know if it is true or not.

Either way it is stupid of them. Which agency and where is the contract. London or Aberdeen?

[northernladuk]

yes i did ask them this same question, they said i was put forward on £55 an hour rate just to be in better position to negociate the final rates. I don't know if it is true or not.

To be honest that sounds reasonable and is quite plausible. The problem would be if they put your forward for that and he managed to secure it it's very unlikely you'd have seen most of the extra.

[SueEllen]

Agency rang me this afternoon saying client has forwarded my emails to them, i had a long chat with one of the senior member in the agency and i explained everything. They were apologetic and requested me not to contact the client directly.
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I have no problems contacting the client directly.

It's to discuss things like contract terms that the agency should understand but doesn't e.g. working hours in decimal not matching what I was told at interview, to arrange a face-to-face interview,, to discuss start dates, start time on the first day, give them referees and to thank them for their time. I've have never discussed money through. If there is an issue with the rate I have mentioned the agent's attitude over rate face-to-face with the client.

Agents get annoyed with it. However apart from the latter two if the agent did their job properly I wouldn't contact the client to clarify/sort out these things.

[psychocandy]

I have no problems contacting the client directly.

It's to discuss things like contract terms that the agency should understand but doesn't e.g. working hours in decimal not matching what I was told at interview, to arrange a face-to-face interview,, to discuss start dates, start time on the first day, give them referees and to thank them for their time. I've have never discussed money through. If there is an issue with the rate I have mentioned the agent's attitude over rate face-to-face with the client.

Agents get annoyed with it. However apart from the latter two if the agent did their job properly I wouldn't contact the client to clarify/sort out these things.

And I would suggest a few bad agencies spoil it for the ones who are doing it properly and want to be the point of contact for the client.

If an agency came back to me after offer and said there was a cut, first thing I'd be thinking is "yeh right" and would not even consider without confirmation that the agency were not pulling a fast one.

[BlasterBates]

Oil and Gas is a bit dire so I think it wouldn't be unusual for the PM to be "put down" by Purchasing/senior manager when making an offer. They're probably on an aggressive cost cutting drive.