State of the Market

[oliverson]

for me, the way to diffuse this problem so both sides can claim victory is to simply apply the 24 month rule across the whole thing. That means, if you are at a company or subsidiary for longer than that period you will need to be individually assessed for IR35.

That way, the people that HMRC really want to go after are ‘sorted out’ and the interim specialists who hop from
client to client are not thrown under the bus.

Absolutely spot on.

[eek]

Absolutely spot on.

Nope, not enough Employers NI there and it would open up the market up for further abuse.

[thebone]

Nope, not enough Employers NI there and it would open up the market up for further abuse.

He's now got a plan to reduce his imported IT serf NI take, having made it tougher for his local ones to work at all.

Boris Johnson 'to ditch GBP30,000 salary threshold' for immigrants in Australian-style shake-up | PoliticsHome.com

[Cirrus]

That way, the people that HMRC really want to go after are ‘sorted out’ and the interim specialists who hop from
client to client are not thrown under the bus.

But of course the truth is the <24 month chunk is 99% bums-on-seats. The 'interim specialists', which I assume you mean are distinctly different from permies, are so rare I can't remember seeing one in 30+ years of contracting.

I'll suggest an IR35 test: if you come across a person in a meeting, can you tell whether they are a contractor or not without going on LinkedIn?

[PCTNN]

I'll suggest an IR35 test: if you come across a person in a meeting, can you tell whether they are a contractor or not without going on LinkedIn?

yes, contractors' badges are of a different colour

[eek]

He's now got a plan to reduce his imported IT serf NI take, having made it tougher for his local ones to work at all.

Boris Johnson 'to ditch GBP30,000 salary threshold' for immigrants in Australian-style shake-up | PoliticsHome.com

Oh goody will save me a fortune with my consultancy.

Still billing out at £1000 a day.

[Paralytic]

I'll suggest an IR35 test: if you come across a person in a meeting, can you tell whether they are a contractor or not without going on LinkedIn?

Didn't someone here have a staff uniform for themselves?

[ladymuck]

for me, the way to diffuse this problem so both sides can claim victory is to simply apply the 24 month rule across the whole thing. That means, if you are at a company or subsidiary for longer than that period you will need to be individually assessed for IR35.

That way, the people that HMRC really want to go after are ‘sorted out’ and the interim specialists who hop from
client to client are not thrown under the bus.

A number of banks (the usual suspects) used to have policies that said a contractor couldn't be on site for more than x number of months. So, they'd all get periodically binned off and then rehired a few months later.

[Cirrus]

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yes, contractors' badges are of a different colour

OK: if you come across a person in a meeting (and all the lights are out and the curtains/blinds are drawn), can you tell whether they are a contractor or not without going on LinkedIn?

[KinooOrKinog]

I'll suggest an IR35 test: if you come across a person in a meeting, can you tell whether they are a contractor or not without going on LinkedIn?

Well in your case you'll be the one bending over.