Fired and escorted out because I did not accept to be paid less than hours worked

[psychocandy]

Regardless of what PC says, being flexible can work out to be very profitable.
Ended up with an offered £50 PD bump up on extension once, plus stupid money, at weekends. Purely for helping the client out through a difficult time.
Unwilling guys were let go, prior, not everyone tries to screw you over.

Hang on I never said that. It CAN work out profitable but I'd rather do it my way.

I'll work for free up to a point, but when it passes that point no more. I certainly won't do it based on the promise of favours in the future. At current client, they can't/won't pay for extra days at the weekend - so I agree to do it as TOIL. This is me being flexible in my book - I could insist on payment.

Fair enough it worked out for you but how many of us have had gigs where you've worked extra then its ended anyway and its a case of cheers thanks a lot. End of gig.

[psychocandy]

At go live in one of my previous clients we had 3 weeks where it was 12-16 hour days, up to 7 days per week.
Client said they would pay extra 1/2 day or full day and told me to invoice them for it, putting down 1.5 days per day (or 2 days per day) on the timesheet.
Agent said no, I was only allowed to invoice for 1 day and it was tough luck to me.
Spoke to the client and in the end I invoiced them for a few weekends after, but also invoiced them for a week while I was not working for them. All with the client's blessing and without the agent being able to screw me over (yes, they were prepared to lose commission on their side just to make them feel more powerful over me).


As for the OP, if you're on a daily rate you invoice for a full day (or if the client allows it, half a day). You do not invoice for 1/10th of a day when you are on a daily rate. You certainly wouldn't invoice for 2 hours work. You'd suck it up, or if you're really workshy, take it off another day. Maybe take a long lunch, or take up smoking so you do an hour less work per day than healthy people.

One gig said we want people to work 12 hours, cover nights and weekends. But they offered 1.5x for the 12 hours, 1.5x if it was nights, then 1.5x if shift was the weekend (2x for sunday) and said just multiply it all up.

So 12 hours 8pm sunday to 8am monday they paid 4.5x day rate. Massive amount. Most of this time was spend sitting around "just in case" too. And client had a gym and brought in an xbox, free food etc. Cracking it was

There weren't many complaints! And lots of people wanted to do sundays!

[northernladuk]

One gig said we want people to work 12 hours, cover nights and weekends. But they offered 1.5x for the 12 hours, 1.5x if it was nights, then 1.5x if shift was the weekend (2x for sunday) and said just multiply it all up.

So 12 hours 8pm sunday to 8am monday they paid 4.5x day rate. Massive amount. Most of this time was spend sitting around "just in case" too. And client had a gym and brought in an xbox, free food etc. Cracking it was

There weren't many complaints! And lots of people wanted to do sundays!

Cool story bro. Now back on topic....

[MrMarkyMark]

It CAN work out profitable but I'd rather do it my way.

The thing is it seems like you are a cr@p negotiator, so you end up working weekends and earning less money.

I'll stick to my way.

Cheers

[MrMarkyMark]

Cool story bro. Now back on topic....

Maybe its just me, but everyone has a book in them, or so they say

[Danglekt]

You dont need to shout to look like a trouble maker that the client doesn't want to pay for. You are a business and in a client supplier relationship ship. Things are different and the client doesn't need reasons you understand.

TBH the fact you are still here arguing it is starting to speak volumes. I've a feeling you are going to have a fairly rocky contracting path.

In some places I've worked ending an email with "regards" rather than "kind regards" is the most British way of showing you are hugely annoyed.

It's all very subtle in some environment - others less so.

It's all a learning curve - be annoyed, have a little rant, then get your head down and get another gig and make sure next time the situation pops up you consider your approach.

[VillageContractor]

OP - I agree with everything said about being flexible, you're a business supplying a service to a business. 2 hours lost vs many more days billed

But more importantly don't ever let yourself be in a situation where your client thinks you are angry or upset. You may not think you were but maybe just maybe you were. No one is going to continue to hire stroppy contractors.

[NotAllThere]

In some places I've worked ending an email with "regards" rather than "kind regards" is the most British way of showing you are hugely annoyed.

In the US, no preamble is most friendly. Hi Fred is a bit neutral. Dear Fred is a declaration of war. My Finnish colleague delighted in winding her US colleague in this way - and he was far too polite to say anything about it.

[LondonManc]

In some places I've worked ending an email with "regards" rather than "kind regards" is the most British way of showing you are hugely annoyed.

Never seen that in my whole working life.

Anything more than regards usually implies I want something

[quackhandle]

HomHom, sue them for unfair dismissal.

That'll learn 'em.

qh