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    Polexit?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58840076

    The unprecedented challenge made by Poland's prime minister, Mateusz Morawiecki, to one of the European Union's core legal principles has seriously escalated his government's dispute with Brussels. And it has fuelled concerns that Poland is heading towards the door, described as "Polexit".

    France says such an exit is now a "de facto risk". Late on Friday the French and German foreign ministers rebuked Poland, saying EU membership relied upon "complete and unconditional adherence to common values and rules" and this was "not simply a moral commitment. It is also a legal commitment".

    The European Commission has warned it will use all its powers against Poland.

    On Thursday, Poland's Constitutional Tribunal ruled that key articles of one of the EU's primary treaties were incompatible with Polish law, in effect rejecting the principle that EU law has primacy over national legislation in certain judicial areas.
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    Jacek Karnowski, editor-in-chief of the pro-government Sieci weekly, told the BBC that Polexit was "unimaginable and unrealistic", although he said the topic was now a matter of discussion.

    Poland, like the UK, was a proud independent nation, he said, but "much weaker, unhappily".

    The PiS mainstream believed Poland must defend its sovereignty and not be treated as a second-class member, he said.

    He sees Brussels as the aggressor, overstepping its powers and inventing new tools to constrain Poland to roll back the reforms.

    "Government officials feel they are being cheated by Brussels. Thursday's ruling was decided in some sense by the EU's position," he said.

    In his opinion Brussels has set Poland a trap.

    "There is a possibility that Poland will be pushed out of the EU because we can already see that we are being pushed out."

    He says Warsaw is being offered a choice of either being a "legal colony" of Brussels or of leaving the EU.

    "If the government were to say we want to leave, there would be a change of government, so it's a trap set by Brussels."

    Anything to see here?
    His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...

    #2
    Poland, much like the UK entered into an agreement that they read and signed fully knowing what it entailed, now want to back track. Funny how it's only countries sliding into a right wing morass don't like this. Over and out...(now just waiting for moronic comments from the imbecilic <modsnip> who reside on here)
    Last edited by cojak; 9 October 2021, 12:48. Reason: Language, Timothy…
    Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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      #3
      Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
      Poland, much like the UK entered into an agreement that they read and signed fully knowing what it entailed, now want to back track. Funny how it's only countries sliding into a right wing morass don't like this. Over and out...(now just waiting for moronic comments from the imbecilic who reside on here)
      A bit like Germany before invading Poland then?

      Democratically voting to Leave an organisation that slowly and secretively changed the rules from a trading block to a European wide super state is hardly the advent of the fourth Reich in Islington except in the minds of morons.... oh hello Barmy!
      Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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        #4
        According to the Polish polls, the Poles are far more in favour of the EU than Britain ever have been. There's little danger of a Polexit. Unless of course the Polish government acts without a referendum.
        Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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          #5
          Originally posted by vetran View Post

          A bit like Germany before invading Poland then?

          Democratically voting to Leave an organisation that slowly and secretively changed the rules from a trading block to a European wide super state is hardly the advent of the fourth Reich in Islington except in the minds of morons.... oh hello Barmy!
          Just gave you negative rep because you cant seem to get over the WW2 even though you were too young to be alive then. FFS grow up!
          "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George Orwell

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            #6
            I doubt Poland will leave any time soon but I do like seeing all the EU officials getting huffy.

            Hungary is also on the naughty step, I believe?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Paddy View Post
              I'm a thicko want to ignore history
              i was alive when the EU morphed into the super state.
              Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                #8
                Originally posted by vetran View Post

                i was alive when the EU morphed into the super state.
                But now you're dead?
                Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post

                  But now you're dead?
                  only between the ears like most of the posters in this sub forum seem to be.

                  Imagine leaving an international organisation whose future direction the majority of voters disagree with after a democratic vote? - only a country with a long history & future of Fascism would consider anything so extreme.
                  Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                    #10
                    Is this because Poland is now fully funding the EU, or is it because the politicians there are lurching to the right with populist nationalism?
                    …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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