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Damn you would have thought the remainers might have said something

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by DealorNoDeal View Post

    How are they exploiting them? Paying less than the minimum wage, or something else?

    What are they getting them to do that is illegal?

    Are most farmers, who employ Eastern Europeans, doing this?
    Try this

    https://www.gov.uk/agricultural-work...ts/gangmasters

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  • DealorNoDeal
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post

    I guess the farmers prefer to stick with a tried and tested exploitation formula. They know Eastern Europeans they are cheap and do as they are told even it its illegal
    How are they exploiting them? Paying less than the minimum wage, or something else?

    What are they getting them to do that is illegal?

    Are most farmers, who employ Eastern Europeans, doing this?
    Last edited by DealorNoDeal; 4 July 2021, 07:18.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by DealorNoDeal View Post

    You'd think it would be easier using Brits. No language issues, no need to fly them in or provide accommodation. ut they just want too much money and expect a decent employment contraact

    I guess the farmers prefer to stick with a tried and tested exploitation formula. They know Eastern Europeans they are cheap and do as they are told even it its illegal
    FTFY

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  • DealorNoDeal
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    You'd think it would be easier using Brits. No language issues, no need to fly them in or provide accommodation.

    I guess the farmers prefer to stick with a tried and tested formula. They know Eastern Europeans stay the course and get the job done. Why risk your crop on an unknown quantity.

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  • vetran
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    oh look it seems the farmers didn't want brits.

    https://ukandeu.ac.uk/low-paid-jobs-...19-and-brexit/

    https://www.theguardian.com/money/20...-uk-applicants

    hmm

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by Whorty View Post

    Interesting Not sure I've said anywhere I support any of this ... I'm laughing at your desperation to try to find something, anything, that supports Brexit

    How about this poll from 2017 ... slightly larger sample size, same results

    https://www.fwi.co.uk/news/farmer-su...w-poll-reveals
    vaccination good, exchange rate good. the EU butt fecked - we are done here!

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  • Whorty
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post

    577 is not a large sample.

    They voted for a lack of CAPs - which they got.

    The ones not getting subsidies from the EU voted to lose the subsidies.

    They knew that the overseas workers would dry up and were open to mechanisation.

    You keep supporting exploitation it looks good on you!
    Interesting Not sure I've said anywhere I support any of this ... I'm laughing at your desperation to try to find something, anything, that supports Brexit

    How about this poll from 2017 ... slightly larger sample size, same results

    https://www.fwi.co.uk/news/farmer-su...w-poll-reveals
    Last edited by Whorty; 1 July 2021, 18:08.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by Whorty View Post

    The answer is yes, farmers (mostly in England) voted out. As such, I'm happy they get what they voted for as they did 'win', didn't they

    https://www.bidwells.co.uk/what-we-t...ferendum-poll/
    577 is not a large sample.

    They voted for a lack of CAPs - which they got.

    The ones not getting subsidies from the EU voted to lose the subsidies.

    They knew that the overseas workers would dry up and were open to mechanisation.

    You keep supporting exploitation it looks good on you!

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  • Whorty
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post

    I don't know why don't you try to find some facts?
    The answer is yes, farmers (mostly in England) voted out. As such, I'm happy they get what they voted for as they did 'win', didn't they

    https://www.bidwells.co.uk/what-we-t...ferendum-poll/

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by ladymuck View Post

    And consumers will complain about the increase in the cost of food with trade deals bringing in cheaper produce and our home grown industry will die off. It feels like we've already been there, done that.
    We could have protected it any time we wanted. I suppose this is how the plantation owners complained when slavery was abolished.

    We probably could still avoid the issue by automating and beat our competitors who still use manual labour.

    Just remember before the combine harvester.

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