Reasons why the UK hasn't left the EU yet

[darmstadt]

[Zigenare]

So they voted against what they thought was a crap deal.

What's your point?

[NotAllThere]

Reasons why the UK hasn't left the EU yet

Just one. Government incompetence.

[Whorty]

So they voted against what they thought was a crap deal.

What's your point?

The point is you're still falling for their guff

They seem to be supporting the 'new' deal, even though it sounds like it is technically May's deal but with the border moved to the Irish Sea. Are you happy that they are selling the NI population down the river?

Oops, sorry, of course you are - you hate anyone 'foreign' and you consider the Irish, even those who are part of the UK, as foreigners

[Zigenare]

The point is you're still falling for their guff

They seem to be supporting the 'new' deal, even though it sounds like it is technically May's deal but with the border moved to the Irish Sea. Are you happy that they are selling the NI population down the river?

Oops, sorry, of course you are - you hate anyone 'foreign' and you consider the Irish, even those who are part of the UK, as foreigners

I don't hate anyone, not even morons like you.

[MasterBait]

It's not really a deal they voted against, it's the withdrawal agreement. The deal is next to be negotiated which typically takes 10 -15 years

[WTFH]

The DUP (not elected by many in the UK) want to have a veto to overrule any democratic decisions.
They want to have the same rules as the rest of the UK, unless it doesn’t suit them (such as abortion, same sex marriage, air passenger duty, defamation)

But hey, it’s the will of the people that the UK must bow to every demand of this minor party, because their ongoing “No” brings so much to the table, adds so much value and offers so many compromises.

Do you want to leave with no deal?
DUP : No

Do you want to leave with an agreed deal?
DUP : No

Do you want to propose an alternative deal?
DUP : No

Would £x million change your mind
DUP: No, we have principles and can’t be bought

Would £x billion change your mind
DUP: Give it to us then we will talk, but our answers will mostly be “No”

[DealorNoDeal]

Reality is, you probably need a thumping (Blair like) majority in the Commons to get something as monumental as Brexit through.

Even if May had had Cameron's majority, it would still have been a stretch with the divisions in the Tory party.

It's debatable whether or not another GE will break the impasse.

[Old Greg]

Reality is, you probably need a thumping (Blair like) majority in the Commons to get something as monumental as Brexit through.

Even if May had had Cameron's majority, it would still have been a stretch with the divisions in the Tory party.

It's debatable whether or not another GE will break the impasse.

The Tories haven't won a decent majority since '87. It's hard to see how they can do so now, and they have no real potential small party allies except the DUP.

[DealorNoDeal]

The Tories haven't won a decent majority since '87. It's hard to see how they can do so now, and they have no real potential small party allies except the DUP.

By trying to get a deal, similar to May's, Johnson has made it virtually inevitable that Farage's lot will stand in a GE. Even if Johnson subsequently shifted position to "no deal", Farage will say the Tories can't be trusted with Brexit.

If the BP do stand, then it will split the Brexit vote. Johnson may try to make the GE about everything other than Brexit but I expect many who vote this time will treat the GE as a referendum on Brexit.

However, maybe Cummings has a cunning plan to win the day.