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    We must choose the open sea!

    Originally posted by Winston Churchill
    “We have our own dream and our own task. We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked but not combined. We are interested and associated but not absorbed. If Britain must choose between Europe and the open sea, she must always choose the open sea.”
    Nice one, Sir Winston!
    Old Greg - In search of acceptance since Mar 2007. Hoping each leap will be his last.

    #2
    Originally posted by Winston Churchill
    “We have our own dream and our own task. We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked but not combined. We are interested and associated but not absorbed. If Britain must choose between Europe and the open sea, she must always choose the open sea.”
    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
    Nice one, Sir Winston!
    Misquote, Churchy.
    I'm perfect, in a very specific and limited way.
    Hands... out infractions
    Face... the music
    Space... between the ears

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      #3
      Originally posted by Winston Churchill
      “We have our own dream and our own task. We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked but not combined. We are interested and associated but not absorbed."
      15th Feb 1930 written in the Saturday Evening Post

      As for this bit:
      Originally posted by Winston Churchill
      If Britain must choose between Europe and the open sea, she must always choose the open sea.”
      When exactly did he say it?
      I'm perfect, in a very specific and limited way.
      Hands... out infractions
      Face... the music
      Space... between the ears

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        #4
        He never said it.

        Jon Danzig's World: Churchill wrongly recruited for Brexit

        "Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
          Nice one, Sir Winston!
          Someone needs to research Hansard and confirm what he really said rather than relying on xenophobic lies from the internet

          Here's a clue, he supported a United States of Europe
          I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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            #6
            Originally posted by WTFH View Post
            15th Feb 1930 written in the Saturday Evening Post

            As for this bit:


            When exactly did he say it?
            During a blazing row with De Gaulle in 1943, on the eve of D-Day, to make the point that the UK would always turn to the US and Roosevelt for support in liberating Europe, not De Gaulle and the French.

            Originally posted by Winston Churchill
            “We are going to liberate Europe, but it is because the Americans are with us. So get this quite clear. Every time we have to decide between Europe and the open sea, it is always the open sea we shall choose. Every time I have to choose between you and Roosevelt, I will always choose Roosevelt.”
            "Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Whorty View Post
              Someone needs to research Hansard and confirm what he really said rather than relying on xenophobic lies from the internet

              Here's a clue, he supported a United States of Europe
              But not a European Super State with a centralised dictatorship though.

              Not quite the fooking same is it?

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                #8
                Originally posted by original PM View Post
                But not a European Super State with a centralised dictatorship though.

                Not quite the fooking same is it?
                The article in the Saturday Evening Post that the first 4 sentances were taken from was entitled "The United States of Europe"

                Winston Churchill - Sat Eve Post 15 Feb 1930.pdf - Google Drive

                He also wrote:
                Originally posted by Winston Churchill
                “We are bound to further every honest and practical step to which the nations of Europe may make to reduce barriers which divide them and to nourish their common interests and their common welfare.
                "We rejoice at every diminution of the internal tariffs and the martial armaments of Europe. We see nothing but good and hope in a richer, freer, more contented European commonality.
                "Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by DaveB View Post
                  The article in the Saturday Evening Post that the first 4 sentances were taken from was entitled "The United States of Europe"

                  Winston Churchill - Sat Eve Post 15 Feb 1930.pdf - Google Drive

                  He also wrote:
                  1930 was a long time ago.

                  You know before the Germans decide to murder 6 million innocent people because they did not fit the profile.

                  Before the Spanish civil war

                  And the greek civil war

                  And the Italian civil war

                  In fact it would probably be fair to say that Europe in 1930 was a completely different place than Europe in 1950.

                  So it would also I imagine be fair to say that people's views and attitudes may also have changed.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
                    15th Feb 1930 written in the Saturday Evening Post

                    As for this bit:


                    When exactly did he say it?
                    5th June 1944
                    Old Greg - In search of acceptance since Mar 2007. Hoping each leap will be his last.

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