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Halloween it is then.
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Originally posted by Whorty View PostYou voted to 'leave', but you didn't vote for 'how' to leave.In fact, pre referendum the leave campaign, including your nicotine stained frog god Farage, all said we would stay in the SM. This versio of 'leave' is on offer but the brexstremists are saying this is not now what they want and idiots who voted out are falling for the lies (again).
So no, your vote wasn't ignored. You're being offered what you voted for. But you're being greedy and asking for more; this is backfiring and it's making you angry and gammon-like
Get over it ... you won
Originally posted by Old Greg View PostTriggering Article 50 and negotiating a withdrawal agreement is not ignoring the vote, is it?Comment
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Originally posted by shaunbhoy View PostBuried within the smug, patronising, condescending, hysterical, churlish, hyperbole that is your stock-in-trade.
HTH
I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter manComment
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Originally posted by GJABS View PostHuh? The government has not implemented a Brexit remaining in the single market. Instead they and the Yvette Cooper MPs have kept us as a member of the EU past the date at which we should have left.Comment
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Originally posted by meridian View PostWhy do you think there’s a date that we “should” have left by? Isn’t it more important to get the exit right for the country, no matter how long it takes?
I want one vote - stay or leave. Then just get on with it.
Though being a smaller country requires nimbleness. Something severly lacking in Westminster. Until we get a better dfrop of politicians, I vote we stay.
On second thoughts, if we have a Canadian BoE governor, could we pay for a decent Prime Minister? How about Barnier - even Farage has expressed his admiration for him many times.Comment
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Originally posted by BrilloPad View PostThere is no right exit or wrong exit.
I want one vote - stay or leave. Then just get on with it.
Perhaps if the public hasn’t been lied to by the arch Brexiters telling them how easy it was all going to be, we would have more reasonable expectations of how long the process should take.Comment
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Originally posted by meridian View PostIf that were true we wouldn’t be having these arguments in Parliament. Clearly some of our MPs (such as the ERG) feel that there is a wrong type of exit, otherwise they would have voted for the Withdrawal Agreement.
We all got the first part (well, most of us - Brits more than 15 years out didn’t because they’re no longer British enough, EU citizens living in the UK more than 15 years didn’t because they’re still not British enough...). They’re doing the second part. The issue appears to be the discrepancy between the public’s perception of how long it should take, and how long it will actually take.
Perhaps if the public hasn’t been lied to by the arch Brexiters telling them how easy it was all going to be, we would have more reasonable expectations of how long the process should take.
The vote I want is in parliament. How difficult is it to leave with no deal?
I always thought the only reason to stay in the EU was the difficulty of leaving.
Westminster is such a disaster now. I would take Brussels over them every time after what has happened the last 2 years.Comment
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Originally posted by BrilloPad View PostThe ERG are idiots. Corbyn just wants his hands on power.
The vote I want is in parliament. How difficult is it to leave with no deal?
I always thought the only reason to stay in the EU was the difficulty of leaving.
Westminster is such a disaster now. I would take Brussels over them every time after what has happened the last 2 years.
It’s not difficult at all to leave with no deal. The issue is whether or not the country both understands and is prepared for the consequences, and whether or not our elected representatives are prepared for that responsibility. Opinion in Parliament is split, but on balance they are not prepared to exit with No Deal.
(Note: one of the consequences is that as soon as the U.K. requests to open trade talks with the EU, the first request from the EU will be for the three main strands of the WA to be settled. Therefore, it’s pretty pointless to leave with No Deal)Comment
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Originally posted by meridian View PostYour elected representative has had their vote in Parliament. Multiple times.
It’s not difficult at all to leave with no deal. The issue is whether or not the country both understands and is prepared for the consequences, and whether or not our elected representatives are prepared for that responsibility. Opinion in Parliament is split, but on balance they are not prepared to exit with No Deal.
(Note: one of the consequences is that as soon as the U.K. requests to open trade talks with the EU, the first request from the EU will be for the three main strands of the WA to be settled. Therefore, it’s pretty pointless to leave with No Deal)Comment
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