Tell Tulip to Deliver Brexit

[original PM]

Very bad for UK, very good for EU

Euro clearing was recently blocked by UK in court - ECB tried to move it to eurozone, now they will be able to do it.

Financial transaction tax was blocked by UK, and general regulation of money laundering via UKs dirty laundries like Isle of Man, British Virgin Islands, Jersey etc

This should be enough to disrupt money inflows, high raise building in Docklands will be used by homeless (former brokers)

Ok thanks - so another reason why the EU should be happy to see the back of us then?

[AtW]

Ok thanks - so another reason why the EU should be happy to see the back of us then?

Yes and they can’t wait - it does not mean they are not going to defend interests of its members - that’s the whole point of EU.

Backstop problem is totally of UKs doing anyway

[original PM]

Yes and they can’t wait - it does not mean they are not going to defend interests of its members - that’s the whole point of EU.

Backstop problem is totally of UKs doing anyway

No one is asking them not to defend the interests of its members.

Do you think it in the interests of it's members to try and keep the current trade deals as they are to try to avoid as much economic change as possible?

[meridian]

No one is asking them not to defend the interests of its members.

Do you think it in the interests of it's members to try and keep the current trade deals as they are to try to avoid as much economic change as possible?

Yes, of course - the EU is not losing any trade deals though.

In terms of U.K. trade with the EU, there are two considerations, one that is confirmed and one that is not:
- the EU will protect the integrity of the Single Market over allowing the exact same trading conditions with the U.K.;
- the U.K. still hasn’t decided what the future trading relationship with the EU will look like.

[NotAllThere]

Do you think it in the interests of it's members to try and keep the current trade deals as they are to try to avoid as much economic change as possible?

They clear think that in the scheme of things, it is not. You're continuing to make the mistake that the EU is a separate entity. It is not. The EU is its member states.

[Old Greg]

No one is asking them not to defend the interests of its members.

Do you think it in the interests of it's members to try and keep the current trade deals as they are to try to avoid as much economic change as possible?

Best outcomes for the EU are the UK as a vassal state or no Brexit. Worst Outcome is Brexit with no deal. All three of there are still in play. Fun times.

[Whorty]

Ok what I was trying to do was start an intelligent discussion about all the things the UK have vetoed <snip>

No you wasn't, you was sealioning.

[original PM]

No you wasn't, you was sealioning.

Well I was today years old when I learned what that meant.

Sealioning - Wikipedia

However I do not think asking for you to clarify or back up your statements with fact without resorting to insults is really sealioning.

[Whorty]

Well I was today years old when I learned what that meant.

Sealioning - Wikipedia

However I do not think asking for you to clarify or back up your statements with fact without resorting to insults is really sealioning.

You asked a set of questions with no intention of looking at the answers with an open mind. You say you wanted a factual discussion, yet you ask others to search for these facts for you. Tell you what fella, you put up some facts to your own questions, waste your own time, and we'll have a discussion on that.

Your attitude on here is constant and classic sealioning. I'm tempted to throw you a mackerel to see if you've been trained to catch yet

[AtW]

Do you think it in the interests of it's members to try and keep the current trade deals as they are to try to avoid as much economic change as possible?

Yes, for transition period which they've offered.

It's UK that started this tulip and it's UK that can't ratify reached deal - the best that was possible under red lines (intentionally) put forward by May.

The whole exercise was about making sure UK drops out without transition deal