Tell Tulip to Deliver Brexit

[AtW]

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Obscure no-deal Brexit group is UK's biggest political spender on Facebook | Politics | The Guardian

We always suspected Brexitters were talking tulips

[Old Greg]

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Obscure no-deal Brexit group is UK's biggest political spender on Facebook | Politics | The Guardian

We always suspected Brexitters were talking tulips

There is a lot of fuss about this. People can speculate about who is funding this. Maybe it is Putin. Maybe it is the American alt right. Maybe it is Somerset Capital Management. One thing we can be certain of is that whoever is behind it has the best interests of the British people at heart.

[AtW]

Why is it even legal to fund such campaigns without clear disclosure?

£340k spent on it apparently!

For comparison - my locals MP donation limit (overall) during 6 weeks of General election campaigning were around £12k.

£12 fooking K was the limit OVERALL.

No limit on the "national campaign" though!

[Mordac]

Why is it even legal to fund such campaigns without clear disclosure?

£340k spent on it apparently!

For comparison - my locals MP donation limit (overall) during 6 weeks of General election campaigning were around £12k.

£12 fooking K was the limit OVERALL.

No limit on the "national campaign" though!

If no-one knows who is funding the ads, who would you like to prosecute? Facebook? Best of luck with that. If someone wants to spend GBP340k on Facebook ads, good luck to them. I'd like to say it was me, but I could be lying...

[AtW]

If no-one knows who is funding the ads, who would you like to prosecute? Facebook? Best of luck with that.

Erm, obviously the platform that publishes ads - Facebook in this case.

Obviously the law needs to be changed to make publishers liable for publishing political (or any) ads without full disclosure and due diligence.

[Old Greg]

Erm, obviously the platform that publishes ads - Facebook in this case.

Obviously the law needs to be changed to make publishers liable for publishing political (or any) ads without full disclosure and due diligence.

But that would upset the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

[AtW]

But that would upset the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

Erm, why would it?

In any case their opinion is irrelevant (I was a paid supporter of theirs, and generally support their actions), doubt they would have problem with transparency in PAID ADS

[Mordac]

Erm, obviously the platform that publishes ads - Facebook in this case.

Obviously the law needs to be changed to make publishers liable for publishing political (or any) ads without full disclosure and due diligence.

Which law would that be? UK law, or US law? Facebook is a US company. We could stick Nick Clegg in jail for 10 years (and I don't have a problem with that, unsurprisingly) but short of blocking Facebook in the UK, we are in no position to tell Facebook who they can and can't take money from for their ads. You can't control or regulate the internet, you can only ban access to certain parts of it from your own citizens. Your Russian roots are starting to show...

[AtW]

UK law, obviously.

Facebook got UK subsidiary anyway, and even if it didn't they'd still have to obey it because they TRADE IN THIS COUNTRY.

Do you understand that, imbecile? Just like after Brexit UK companies will have to follow EU law when trading with EU (customers who are there), even if physically they are not there - we'll have to collect VAT same way we do now.

The only difference will be that UK no longer have a say (veto in many cases) about EU laws.

[Mordac]

UK law, obviously.

Facebook got UK subsidiary anyway, and even if it didn't they'd still have to obey it because they TRADE IN THIS COUNTRY.

Do you understand that, imbecile? Just like after Brexit UK companies will have to follow EU law when trading with EU (customers who are there), even if physically they are not there - we'll have to collect VAT same way we do now.

The only difference will be that UK no longer have a say (veto in many cases) about EU laws.

After next year, surprisingly almost no veto at all (Lisbon Treaty, go and look it up). As long as 15 countries agree, pretty much everything gets waived through. The one exception seems to be "if the Germans don't agree", since their population is big enough to trigger an exemption. All them extra Syrians will come in handy after all, it seems.

And if you think anyone (UK govt or EU govt) can tell Facebook who they can or can't accept advertising revenues from, you're a deluded "imbecile". There's "trading" and there's "the Internet". Anyone who thinks they can control the latter is an idiot. Police it, yes (but only by restriction), but "control it"? Not in a million years.