Crap deal will fail parliament, new referendum coming: vote Real Brexit!

[meridian]

There's two possibilities here
1. You really do have something in mind
2. You're being a prat.

On the balance of probabilities, and noting the tone of your posts in the last few weeks, I'll go for 2.

Anyway- on with the Glorious Revolution, Komrades!

2 is a safe bet.

When asked to put a plan down in writing and in detail he’s gone the same way as all the other gibbering Brexiters with a foaming-at-the-mouth unicorns and cake they-don’t-like-it-up-‘em piece of rubbish.

Like all ex-squaddies with no real skills he’s now reduced to being a keyboard warrior, but without a sergeant-major to tell him what to do there will be no real action, just a few more ‘ironic’ smilies....

[Cirrus]

When asked to put a plan down in writing and in detail he’s gone the same way as all the other gibbering Brexiters with a foaming-at-the-mouth unicorns and cake they-don’t-like-it-up-‘em piece of rubbish.

PosterBhoy is the poster boy for Brexiteers. He lives in a world devoid of detail and doesn't care to evaluate ideas put to him that boost his feelings of future gain and self importance, or ideas about evil influences which threaten the very existence of himself but more importantly other people who he feels superior to in terms of judgement and prowess.

Whilst he ardently refuses to clarify his various positions he is quick to recognise and excoriate those who do have concrete positions (including the UK negotiators). Reality naturally doesn't satisfy his dream world. He is a hypocrite, not a prat. The sad thing is of course it's not him we're worried about. It's the millions of other Brexiteers that he represents. As with Trump supporters, all these people will still be screwing up our society long after Brexit and Trump have gone.

[shaunbhoy]

Like all ex-squaddies with no real skills

Ooooo get her! Generalising is the true sign of a simpleton.....not that your trail hasn't left more than enough other key pointers.

2/10

Keep trying!

[shaunbhoy]

he is quick to recognise and excoriate those who do have concrete positions (including the UK negotiators).

Yeah, the "concrete position" of suggesting a deal that gives us even less than we had before.

Unlike YOU it seems, I can spot a white flag when I see one. And also unlike you, I am less than keen to stand beneath it.

[BlasterBates]

My prediction is Tory MP's will realise that the alternative is not no deal, but no Brexit, because there will be a bill to extend article 50 if this bill fails, therefore Tories will fall into line.

This is a very bad time to be a Tory, they're snookered. Heads Labour win, tails the Tories lose.

[shaunbhoy]

This is a very bad time to be a Tory, they're snookered. Heads Labour win, tails the Tories lose.

If that truly IS going to happen then it is a bad time to be British in general.

[WTFH]

The two together yes.

The voters didn't think it through, not unsurprisingly. Indeed those on the DUP side who were, I understand, opposed the GFA, were remiss in not seeing the potential problems it created in regard to a possible future Brexit; they should have seen the problem and should have brought it to the attention of the electorate there.

The GFA was 18 years before Brexit, and even the DUP can't see the future.

p.s. it is 20 years since the ending of civil war in Northern Ireland. I wonder whether, if the UK brought back a hard border to Northern Ireland, there would be a return to violence? I suspect there would not be, as fewer people on both sides are as religious as they were then, and fewer people care about politics as much, especially the younger generation.

Are you suggesting that the GFA should be torn up because you think it's unlikely that there are any republicans left who are as mad as the DUP? Is that a risk worth taking?

In my opinion (which is outright rejected without consideration by many Brexit voters on here), there are still a lot of adults with ingrained hatred for "the other side" on both sides in NI. People who are in their 40s & 50s today were involved in the violence and still bear the scars. Younger people may have grown up in peace, but that doesn't mean their parents, grandparents and others, can't remember stories from The Troubles, which may well have been embellished over the last few decades.

[shaunbhoy]

In my opinion (which is outright rejected without consideration by many Brexit voters on here),

Understandable given your track record on most topics though.

there are still a lot of adults with ingrained hatred for "the other side" on both sides in NI. People who are in their 40s & 50s today were involved in the violence and still bear the scars.

That is very true. But those same people have also now experienced 20 years of relative stability and peace whereas prior to that many of them knew nothing but problems.
It is to be hoped that they are also now much older and wiser......and can't remember where they buried the weapons.

Younger people may have grown up in peace, but that doesn't mean their parents, grandparents and others, can't remember stories from The Troubles, which may well have been embellished over the last few decades.

You can't have proper unrest without the active participation of the idealistic younger generation. And we have the safety net now of knowing that most of them cannot put their phones down long enough to cause any real problems.
Forget water cannons, tear gas, and rubber bullets. The authorities could quell any disturbances by simply switching off the mobile networks and forcing the rioters to head home to get on their wifi so that they could instagram their activities.

[NotAllThere]

...white noise....

A few years ago, you'd occasionally get a signal. Quite sad really.

[Yorkie62]

Forget water cannons, tear gas, and rubber bullets. The authorities could quell any disturbances by simply switching off the mobile networks and forcing the rioters to head home to get on their wifi so that they could instagram their activities.

It will be easier to round up any trouble causers too when they post the videos on their facebook account.