Nurses crisis in NHS thanks to Brexit

[NotAllThere]

so instead of <8.7% of EU nurses who have English as a second language we could hire the UK grown Nurses (from all cultures)

Since you are clearly barely monolingual, you probably don't understand that having English as your second language does not preclude fluency in English.

Here's what the NMC say concerning English ability.

You must have English as a first language, or have been trained and examined in English (and qualified), or must have an IELTS score of at least 7. That maps to a CEFT score on the boundary of C1/C2. To put that in perspective - to teach a language, you have to be at C2 level in Europe if you're not a native speaker of that language.

as we raid the world for pre trained nurses and don't train our own because taking nurses from abroad is cheaper then my comment stands. S

They're not and it isn't.

[vetran]

Since you are clearly barely monolingual, you probably don't understand that having English as your second language does not preclude fluency in English.

Here's what the NMC say concerning English ability.

You must have English as a first language, or have been trained and examined in English (and qualified), or must have an IELTS score of at least 7. That maps to a CEFT score on the boundary of C1/C2. To put that in perspective - to teach a language, you have to be at C2 level in Europe if you're not a native speaker of that language.

They're not and it isn't.

Oh goody, so why do so many people say "I couldn't understand the nurse/doctor?"

You know that is when they join the register and is a fairly recent requirement? From memory imposed after a German locum Doctor spoke such poor English he was credited with killing a patient.

From my original point.

Britons miss out on nearly 40,000 nursing jobs as NHS recruits from abroad | UK | News | Express.co.uk

Third of hospital nurses in London are foreign as training is cut | London Evening Standard

[Eirikur]

Oh goody, so why do so many people say "I couldn't understand the nurse/doctor?"

Because they were from Liverpool?

[Yorkie62]

Because they were from Liverpool?

I could go with that, although possibly might want to include such areas as Newcastle and Birmingham too. Purely on the grounds of diversity and inclusion.

[pscont]

I'm sure my friends who would love to be nurses may appreciate not being undercut by the cheap EU nurses!

How many of those are talking about? Exactly.
Ignorant twat.

[NotAllThere]

Oh goody, so why do so many people say "I couldn't understand the nurse/doctor?"

Because they're as stupid and ignorant as you?

You're still an idiot for thinking that if someone speaks English as a second language it means that they can't speak English properly. Which point you've not even attempted to address.

[LondonManc]

British nurses are amongst the best paid in the world, only a handful of countries pay better. They should stop complaining as their salaries already cripple the NHS budget.
Top 10 Countries with the Highest Paid Salaries for Nurses

So they should be able to afford to comfortably buy a house near their hospital in central London then. Oh, wait.

Why take just pay, without looking at the cost of living in places too? Totally imbalanced argument; it's like suggesting £3.1bn per year is a great corporate revenue without knowing what the costs are.

[Eirikur]

So they should be able to afford to comfortably buy a house near their hospital in central London then. Oh, wait.

Why take just pay, without looking at the cost of living in places too? Totally imbalanced argument; it's like suggesting £3.1bn per year is a great corporate revenue without knowing what the costs are.

In civilised countries, nurses are offered accomodation near the hospital as part of the package

[sasguru]

How many of those are talking about? Exactly.
Ignorant twat.

Because they're as stupid and ignorant as you?

You're still an idiot for thinking that if someone speaks English as a second language it means that they can't speak English properly. Which point you've not even attempted to address.

Are you saying that vetran (sic) doesn't know what he's talking about? Shirley not!

[Zigenare]

I always thought of Nursing as a vocation, not a job!

The problem is that not enough people get the calling.