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[vetran]

The EU was formed after WWII. There was not a Europe-wide war going on at the time. The EU did not claim (neither has AtW or anyone apart from you) that it is the cause of peace, or that it was responsible for ending some war that was taking place at the time it was founded. - well duh
Having a desire for peace is not the same as claiming to have caused peace.
Having a desire for peace is not the same as claiming to be responsible for peace.

Hmm

From the horses mouth not some other part like a remainer!

https://europa.eu/european-union/abo...y/1945-1959_en

A peaceful Europe – the beginnings of cooperation
The European Union is set up with the aim of ending the frequent and bloody wars between neighbours, which culminated in the Second World War. As of 1950, the European Coal and Steel Community begins to unite European countries economically and politically in order to secure lasting peace.

https://www.ecfr.eu/article/commenta...ope_at_60_7254

The EU has always been a peace project. It started out as one, born from the ashes of war on the continent, and its supreme goal still is to prevent the outbreak of hostilities among and against Europeans. Today’s European Union may seem like a market place, a granter of subsidies, and an experiment in governance. But at its core Europe is still the search for peace – it just took a 60 year detour.

we just need an EU Army & political wing

While looking back on the past 60 years since the Treaties of Rome, political leaders should stare their unfulfilled mission plain in the face. Europe needs political integration, including a security union, to strengthen its cohesion. The layers of global order are weakening while centrifugal forces in European politics become stronger.

What European integration is to the Europeans, and what it could be to the world, needs more than celebration of anniversaries. It is up to those who believe in the peace project to take the initiative and move ahead.

https://www.newstatesman.com/world/2...d-peace-europe

hmmm

[WTFH]

Hmm

From the horses mouth not some other part like a remainer!

https://europa.eu/european-union/abo...y/1945-1959_en

https://www.ecfr.eu/article/commenta...ope_at_60_7254

Excellent finds, does this mean you accept that you were wrong?
Given that your quotes are:
"the aim of ending the frequent and bloody wars between neighbours"
"the search for peace"

Neither of those say that the EU caused (past tense) peace, or that it is responsible for peace in Europe.

They both clearly state a desire going forward, not a claim from the past.

[vetran]

Excellent finds, does this mean you accept that you were wrong?
Given that your quotes are:
"the aim of ending the frequent and bloody wars between neighbours"
"the search for peace"

Neither of those say that the EU caused (past tense) peace, or that it is responsible for peace in Europe.

They both clearly state a desire going forward, not a claim from the past.

OK so now we can agree the EU in 60 years has had NO effect on peace in Europe and is proven to be completely powerless to do so!

Glad we cleared that up, can we avoid suggesting that when you want to remain!