Supermarkets slam "food stockpiling" suggestion by government.

[AtW]

Being in the EU hasn’t brought us to the promised land though has it?

The main promise was lack of another major war in European theatre

[sasguru]

Being in the EU hasn’t brought us to the promised land though has it?

Wait for Brexit. Unicorns will no doubt pop out of your arse.

[BR14]

Being in the EU hasn’t brought us to the promised land though has it?

That was already taken. - it's called Israel, now i think

[PurpleGorilla]

The main promise was lack of another major war in European theatre

I thought the main promise was trade?

[vetran]

The main promise was lack of another major war in European theatre

ah the EU caused peace in Europe fantasy.

Strange most sensible people believe nuclear weapons stopped that. Even Trump & Putin are nice to people with them.

Luckily the EU has sat by while we have Genocide in the Balkans and they like to support beating of voters.

However the EU tulips itself when Vlad the invader farts.

[WTFH]

Supermarkets slam "food stockpiling" suggestion by government.

ah the EU caused peace in Europe fantasy.

Big difference between “caused” (Daily Wailer) and “was the result of the desire to maintain”.
Very big difference. I believe you’d call it a straw man, or some such twaddle if someone else had deliberately and in full knowledge that they were lying and twisting words had come out with it.

The EU was brought about after the end of WWII, after people in the UK and other countries worked together to defeat an evil right wing regime who felt that one race, one group of people should be the only ones allowed to rule, and that anyone who wasn’t of that race was inferior.

...but you can deny that if it fits the DW belief system better.

[vetran]

Big difference between “caused” (Daily Wailer) and “was the result of the desire to maintain”.
Very big difference. I believe you’d call it a straw man, or some such twaddle if someone else had deliberately and in full knowledge that they were lying and twisting words had come out with it.

The EU was brought about after the end of WWII, after people in the UK and other countries worked together to defeat an evil right wing regime who felt that one race, one group of people should be the only ones allowed to rule, and that anyone who wasn’t of that race was inferior.

...but you can deny that if it fits the DW belief system better.

So your argument is that the Germans supported by the French & Italians suddenly felt bad about trying to rule Europe by force for millennia and got together to sing Kumbaya in taxpayer funded five star + accommodation rather than invade other countries. This is the basis for decades of peace in Europe (excepting the localised mass slaughter of people in parts of Europe that the EU did feck all to challenge).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...icts_in_Europe

note how many wars there are in Europe post 1951.


I prefer the "Capital of Glass" theory where politicians suddenly realised that they could no longer send the underclasses to war and avoid the consequences when most opponents could obliterate their capital in seconds and also wipe out the politician's country seats. Until we have off world sanctuaries or a way of avoiding Nuclear consequences for the ruling classes it will probably continue to be local skirmishes.

YMMV but suggesting the EU is responsible for Europe wide peace is raising a Bulltulip Man and anyone who tries to raise it has less IQ than AssGuru's hamster after the lobotomy.

We can see that the appetite for slaughter was not stopped Europeans just fought proxy wars where people didn't have nuclear capability.

I have always found the recipe for peace is "Walk quietly and carry a feck off big stick."

[vetran]

Interesting antisemitism is still quite common despite the wonders of the EU it seems a carry over from earlier conflicts and attitudes, "One Drop of Christian Blood!"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antise...e_21st_century

This is probably the thing that perturbed me the most and made me doubt the intentions of Germany long term.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German...ium#Atrocities

[meridian]

Being in the EU hasn’t brought us to the promised land though has it?

There is no promised land, Dorothy. Who promised you that?

[PurpleGorilla]

So your argument is that the Germans supported by the French & Italians suddenly felt bad about trying to rule Europe by force for millennia and got together to sing Kumbaya in taxpayer funded five star + accommodation rather than invade other countries. This is the basis for decades of peace in Europe (excepting the localised mass slaughter of people in parts of Europe that the EU did feck all to challenge).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...icts_in_Europe

note how many wars there are in Europe post 1951.


I prefer the "Capital of Glass" theory where politicians suddenly realised that they could no longer send the underclasses to war and avoid the consequences when most opponents could obliterate their capital in seconds and also wipe out the politician's country seats. Until we have off world sanctuaries or a way of avoiding Nuclear consequences for the ruling classes it will probably continue to be local skirmishes.

YMMV but suggesting the EU is responsible for Europe wide peace is raising a Bulltulip Man and anyone who tries to raise it has less IQ than AssGuru's hamster after the lobotomy.

We can see that the appetite for slaughter was not stopped Europeans just fought proxy wars where people didn't have nuclear capability.

I have always found the recipe for peace is "Walk quietly and carry a feck off big stick."

Indeed.

Let’s not forget we effectively disarmed Germany after WW2 and occupied it with huge divisions in Western Germany during the Cold War, armed with everything - including tactical nukes.

I think that helped maintain the peace a smidge.

Just a smidge...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Army_of_the_Rhine