Supermarkets slam "food stockpiling" suggestion by government.

[PurpleGorilla]

EU tariffs on food from the vast majority of African countries is currently 0%.

HTH.

But African is still trying to compete against a subsidised market.

https://www.politico.eu/article/fran...ade-agreement/

HTH

[meridian]

But African is still trying to compete against a subsidised market.

https://www.politico.eu/article/fran...ade-agreement/

HTH

Whataboutery.

Mordac stated in an earlier post, "No, but we can import fruit and vegetables from Africa (as we do currently) without the EU tariffs". This incorrectly implies that there are currently tariffs on imports from Africa which, in the vast majority of African countries for everything but arms, there are not.

Whether the CAP unfairly distorts the internal market against external suppliers is a different argument. You might do better as an opening gambit than an anti-dumping spat between Australia and Italy though if your concern is for African farmers.

[darmstadt]

Quality

PS: By Thursday I would have been on the Welsh lamb...

Don't forget to wash it down with this:



And if (Austrian) whiskey is not your thing:

BREXiT - ENERGY DRINK

Damn, made by Poles...

I think some people are having a laugh at Brexiteers and making money, like JRM

[vetran]

Whataboutery.

Mordac stated in an earlier post, "No, but we can import fruit and vegetables from Africa (as we do currently) without the EU tariffs". This incorrectly implies that there are currently tariffs on imports from Africa which, in the vast majority of African countries for everything but arms, there are not.

Whether the CAP unfairly distorts the internal market against external suppliers is a different argument. You might do better as an opening gambit than an anti-dumping spat between Australia and Italy though if your concern is for African farmers.

What the feckerwry by post meridian

The reason for the uproar is buried deep in the Australian anti-dumping commission’s initial report on the case in February, when it announced Feger should face retaliatory duties of 8.4 percent and La Doria of 4.5 percent. But those tariffs are now undergoing internal review by Australian regulators.


The anti-dumping commission said it reckoned the support “payments made to growers of raw tomatoes in Italy have significantly affected the prevailing market prices in Italy for raw tomatoes.” It added that it was “therefore satisfied that the costs recorded by Feger and La Doria for raw tomatoes in their records do not reasonably reflect competitive market costs.”

[meridian]

What the feckerwry by post meridian

Care to try again in English?

[Mordac]

But African is still trying to compete against a subsidised market.

https://www.politico.eu/article/fran...ade-agreement/

HTH

Actually, this was part of the argument I was trying to make. Tariffs (no matter how low they might be) or not, it's never going to be a level playing field.

[meridian]

Actually, this was part of the argument I was trying to make. Tariffs (no matter how low they might be) or not, it's never going to be a level playing field.

If that was part of the argument you were trying to make, it was very well hidden. You've not mentioned non-tariff barriers or level playing fields in any of your posts in this thread, and have implied that the EU imposes tariffs on food from Africa (we don't, at least not for the vast majority of African countries).

A level playing field in it's truest sense is impossible. We currently import beans from Kenya, for example, at 0% tariff. But Kenya also subsidises it's food producers. Kenya has difficulty getting produce to market quickly due to a less advanced infrastructure. Balance that with wages and other costs being lower in Kenya in GBP terms. All of these micro-economic differences mean that it will never be exactly level or comparable between, say, Kenya and the UK for bean producers.

[sasguru]

If that was part of the argument you were trying to make, it was very well hidden. You've not mentioned non-tariff barriers or level playing fields in any of your posts in this thread, and have implied that the EU imposes tariffs on food from Africa (we don't, at least not for the vast majority of African countries).

A level playing field in it's truest sense is impossible. We currently import beans from Kenya, for example, at 0% tariff. But Kenya also subsidises it's food producers. Kenya has difficulty getting produce to market quickly due to a less advanced infrastructure. Balance that with wages and other costs being lower in Kenya in GBP terms. All of these micro-economic differences mean that it will never be exactly level or comparable between, say, Kenya and the UK for bean producers.

Air freight costs are also considerable versus road freight.
UK tomatoes mainly come from greenhouses in Holland. They could come from Kenya but I suspect air freight costs dwarf the saving in wages.
This of course ignores any environmental effects of transporting veg around the world - I suspect this summer will not prove to be a one-off and in spite of the denialist morons, environmental concerns are going to have to come to the fore.

[darmstadt]

Air freight costs are also considerable versus road freight.
UK tomatoes mainly come from greenhouses in Holland. They could come from Kenya but I suspect air freight costs dwarf the saving in wages.
This of course ignores any environmental effects of transporting veg around the world - I suspect this summer will not prove to be a one-off and in spite of the denialist morons, environmental concerns are going to have to come to the fore.

Although no good for food stuff, train freight is cheap...30 trains a week from China arrive in Duisburg with goods for the European market. Also go to other mainland European cities:

China opens new freight train service to Milan - Xinhua | English.news.cn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chongq...Europe_Railway
https://www.politico.eu/article/duis...k-road-vision/

[shaunbhoy]

UK tomatoes mainly come from greenhouses in Holland.

And in the future could quite easily be home-grown.

I suspect this summer will not prove to be a one-off

In which case the crop of tomatoes will reach bumper proportions.

You really need to start seeing the opportunities instead of burying your empty little head in the sand all the time.

Bremoaners see problem, Leavers see opportunities. Tis the way of things.................