New Diktat from Brussels

[BlasterBates]

[sal]

There is a legislative option, which is a specific deal between the two Irelands allowing the existing trade between the two to continue: it's not a major trade (most of Éire's business comes direct to the UK) but it is doable if the EU - not the UK - would allow such a thing. Except they won't.

No there isn't. Member states are not allowed to have individual trade deals and it's a integral part of the EU. They knew the deal when they signed up for membership, or accepted it by not vetoing if it came in force after they joined.

The burden falls on whoever is breaking the status quo (in this case the UK) to provide a workable solution. Except we won't...

It's doable if the UK stays in the CU. Except we say we won't....

[vetran]

Ah Project Fear has found the crayons again.

[northernladyuk]

No there isn't. Member states are not allowed to have individual trade deals and it's a integral part of the EU. They knew the deal when they signed up for membership, or accepted it by not vetoing if it came in force after they joined.

The burden falls on whoever is breaking the status quo (in this case the UK) to provide a workable solution. Except we won't...

It's doable if the UK stays in the CU. Except we say we won't....

Well doesn't that just demonstrate the federalist ambitions of the EU?

[BlasterBates]

[WTFH]

When you have Jacob Rees-Mogg, multi-million pound heir who was privately educated referring to John Major, from Brixton, who left school with 3 'O' levels as being part of the "Elite", you realise how far from reality the main voices of Brexit are.

[darmstadt]

Ah Project Fear has found the crayons again.

No this is Project Fear:



https://twitter.com/jacob_rees_mogg

[northernladyuk]

When you have Jacob Rees-Mogg, multi-million pound heir who was privately educated referring to John Major, from Brixton, who left school with 3 'O' levels as being part of the "Elite", you realise how far from reality the main voices of Brexit are.

You do know that Rees Mogg comes from a coal mining family?

[darmstadt]

You do know that Rees Mogg comes from a coal mining family?

Have been trying to work out the rhyming slang for that but ther eisn't one, so this will have to do: https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...m=coal%20miner

[PurpleGorilla]

A couple of small points first:



What do you mean? 13% of Ireland's exports go to the UK, and 24% of imports come from the UK. https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryPr...ner/by-country
Do you mean something else?

Also, what is this weird thing about using the term 'Éire' when you are writing in English. Do you use the term 'Italia', rather than 'Italy'?

The 450 year old battles would be a reasonable comment about NI politicians but really doesn't apply to mainstream (Republic of) Ireland politicians. I don't think much of them as politicians, but they are just trying to keep trade flowing.



Resorting to name-calling. Tut tut.


To the crux of the discussion. The EU is absolutely prepared to keep trade flowing freely on the island. It is just not prepared to accede to UK demands which threaten the integrity of the single market, which incidentally the UK helped to craft. But it appears you are still in finger-in-ears mode. Never mind. It's reaching the crunch point soon.

As for Corbyn, his plan (nice use of the term 'master plan' with its Nazi war film connotations - how very Daily Mail ''Enemies of the People' of you) doesn't seek to damage national interests. It seeks to preserve jobs and commerce.



WTF!

Something like 80% or The Republic of Ireland’s exports are transported through the UK&NI.