Bloomin' Unelected Officials

[vetran]

So, France did not surrender then?

only a few times.

Once the USA & UK backed them up they seemed to win!

[vetran]

we aren't going to argue about WW2 as the french had their derriere handed to them repeatedly, read some history.

From your link claiming the French won the battle of the Somme its a bit biased.

The battle like many others in WWI, results in a draw between the French & german forces.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Somme

Somme casualties
Nationality Total
casualties Killed &
missing POW
United Kingdom 350,000+ - -
Canada 24,029 - -
Australia 23,000 < 200
New Zealand 7,408 - -
South Africa 3,000+ - -
Newfoundland 2,000+ - -
Total British
Commonwealth 419,654[57] 95,675 -
French 204,253[57] 50,756 -
Total Allied 623,907 146,431 -
Germany 465,000–600,000[57][2][5][3] 164,055 38,000[61]
The Battle of the Somme was one of the costliest battles of World War I. The original Allied estimate of casualties on the Somme, made at the Chantilly Conference on 15 November 1916, was 485,000 British and French casualties and 630,000 German. As one German officer wrote,




Month British French Sub-
total German (% of
Allied
total)
July 158,786 49,859 208,645 103,000 49.4
August 58,085 18,806 76,891 68,000 88.4
September 101,313 76,147 177,460 140,000 78.9
October 57,722 37,626 95,348 78,500 82.3
November 39,784 20,129 59,913 45,000 75.0
Total 415,690 202,567 618,257 434,500 70.3


oh look the French lost far fewer soldiers.

That would be because they had far fewer soldiers who turned up...

Battle of the Somme - World War I - HISTORY.com

But it is the losses that are most remembered. The first day of the Somme offensive, July 1, 1916, resulted in 57,470 British casualties, greater than the total combined British casualties in the Crimean, Boer, and Korean wars. In contrast, the French, with fewer divisions, suffered only around 2,000 casualties.

ok Cockie?

[northernladyuk]

So, France did not surrender then?

Bravo sir. Beautiful parody of the elderly cretin Brexit mindset.

[meridian]

ok Cockie?

Yet again you miss the point spectacularly, but then your only points of reference do seem to be the Great War and WW2 and you do seem to have a bit of an obsession with these.

Little Englander much?

[vetran]

Yet again you miss the point spectacularly, but then your only points of reference do seem to be the Great War and WW2 and you do seem to have a bit of an obsession with these.

Little Englander much?

What point would that be, that the French kept losing or the Germans kept invading?

Little Englander much? -that would be the Empire old chap not the two wars against the Germans their chappie mentioned.

Feckwit much?

[NotAllThere]

The Mail is going full-outrage against the House of Lords and their unelected status. This is curious because when reform was proposed to make them elected they went full-outrage against that too...

the Mail arguing both sides of an argument as it suits them is standard practice for them... Working on the principal that their target audience will have forgotten what they said last year/month/week/yesterday by the time they read today's diatribe.

So the Daily Vetran gets outraged with the HoL because they're unelected and remainers, and with a collection of MPs, because they're elected and remainers, and with a set of judges, because they ruled in favour of remainers.

I'm beginning to see a pattern here. Is it that they're all people with £1M houses?

[darmstadt]

we aren't going to argue about WW2 as the french had their derriere handed to them repeatedly, read some history.

WWII probably wouldn't have happened if if there hadn't been a referendum or 2 to get the NS into power, think about it...

[BlasterBates]

we aren't going to argue about WW2 as the french had their derriere handed to them repeatedly, read some history.

From your link claiming the French won the battle of the Somme its a bit biased.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Somme

Somme casualties
Nationality Total
casualties Killed &
missing POW
United Kingdom 350,000+ - -
Canada 24,029 - -
Australia 23,000 < 200
New Zealand 7,408 - -
South Africa 3,000+ - -
Newfoundland 2,000+ - -
Total British
Commonwealth 419,654[57] 95,675 -
French 204,253[57] 50,756 -
Total Allied 623,907 146,431 -
Germany 465,000–600,000[57][2][5][3] 164,055 38,000[61]
The Battle of the Somme was one of the costliest battles of World War I. The original Allied estimate of casualties on the Somme, made at the Chantilly Conference on 15 November 1916, was 485,000 British and French casualties and 630,000 German. As one German officer wrote,




Month British French Sub-
total German (% of
Allied
total)
July 158,786 49,859 208,645 103,000 49.4
August 58,085 18,806 76,891 68,000 88.4
September 101,313 76,147 177,460 140,000 78.9
October 57,722 37,626 95,348 78,500 82.3
November 39,784 20,129 59,913 45,000 75.0
Total 415,690 202,567 618,257 434,500 70.3


oh look the French lost far fewer soldiers.

That would be because they had far fewer soldiers who turned up...

Battle of the Somme - World War I - HISTORY.com




ok Cockie?

The longest and largest battle of WWI was actually the battle of Verdun, and was a battle in which the British didn't take part. The battle of Verdun started several months before the Somme offensive and was still continuing after the battle of the Somme was over.

The French suffered almost twice as many casualties as the British in 1916.

The French generally played a greater role than Britain in winning WW 1 and had far more casualties.

[vetran]

The longest and largest battle of WWI was actually the battle of Verdun, and was a battle in which the British didn't take part. The battle of Verdun started several months before the Somme offensive and was still continuing after the battle of the Somme was over.

The French suffered almost twice as many casualties as the British in 1916.

you know it was their country that was invaded not ours? We were there to help but we had to catch the ferry.

As I said from your dodgy link they claimed the French won the battle of the Somme the figures disagree with you.

[WTFH]

As I said from your dodgy link they claimed the French won the battle of the Somme.

Must be a different link to the one he posted. That link does not state that the French won the battle of the Somme.
That link does state times that the French army working with other armies were on the victorious side, but the idea of working with others is anathema to you, hence why you probably couldn't read the link correctly.