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    Originally posted by GB9 View Post
    Judges also come and go, being replaced with less Liberal ones.
    Whether they are liberal or facist is irrelevant, as long as they understand British law, and can apply it without bias to the case presented to them.

    They need to way up the facts (not the promises and beliefs) and see how they stack up against the laws of our land - laws that have been enacted by a democratically elected parliament and shown that (contrary to the DF) the British justice system works better than most others in the world.
    …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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      Originally posted by WTFH View Post
      Whether they are liberal or facist is irrelevant, as long as they understand British law, and can apply it without bias to the case presented to them.

      They need to way up the facts (not the promises and beliefs) and see how they stack up against the laws of our land - laws that have been enacted by a democratically elected parliament and shown that (contrary to the DF) the British justice system works better than most others in the world.
      But the laws aren't all written down or clean cut. The judges are interpreting and applying their own preferences. If there was no contention and interpretation then there would never be appeals and never any precedent set.

      This lot are pretty liberal and pro-European, so their judgement will lean to Miller's favour.

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        Originally posted by GB9 View Post
        But the laws aren't all written down or clean cut. The judges are interpreting and applying their own preferences. If there was no contention and interpretation then there would never be appeals and never any precedent set.

        This lot are pretty liberal and pro-European, so their judgement will lean to Miller's favour.
        Ultimately, they lean to who puts the most credible case, and I'm afraid to say, it ain't looking good for the appellant I've watched some of the proceedings (), and the advantage is clearly with the appellee. Sure, everyone has a personal bias, but it's difficult to argue that the system in the US, for example, is more transparent or less biased. The judgements need to stand convincingly on points of law and, regardless of their personal views, the SC judges will be keenly aware of that. As much as anyone, I want this to proceed as quickly and smoothly to a proper Brexit, but HMG needs to be called on their procedural and political failures, as much as their successes.

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          Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
          Before the middle of January? Also, remember that, pre SC, this was adjudicated by the Law Lords
          I'm pretty sure I didn't say that this was likely

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            Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
            Ultimately, they lean to who puts the most credible case, and I'm afraid to say, it ain't looking good for the appellant I've watched some of the proceedings (), and the advantage is clearly with the appellee. Sure, everyone has a personal bias, but it's difficult to argue that the system in the US, for example, is more transparent or less biased. The judgements need to stand convincingly on points of law and, regardless of their personal views, the SC judges will be keenly aware of that. As much as anyone, I want this to proceed as quickly and smoothly to a proper Brexit, but HMG needs to be called on their procedural and political failures, as much as their successes.
            I agree they won't change the original verdict. However, what they say needs to be done will indicate whether or not they overstep the mark imo, and indeed other's.

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              Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
              Ultimately, they lean to who puts the most credible case, and I'm afraid to say, it ain't looking good for the appellant I've watched some of the proceedings (), and the advantage is clearly with the appellee. ...
              respondent

              edit: Oh, as you were, "appellee" is a US term for a respondent
              Last edited by OwlHoot; 7 December 2016, 17:16.
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                Judges wondering if the motion being discussed is enough to trigger A50.

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                  Originally posted by GB9 View Post
                  But the laws aren't all written down or clean cut. The judges are interpreting and applying their own preferences. If there was no contention and interpretation then there would never be appeals and never any precedent set.

                  This lot are pretty liberal and pro-European, so their judgement will lean to Miller's favour.
                  The only way you'll get Brexit leaning judges is by appointing some "thickos", and that is very unlikely.

                  I'm alright Jack

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                    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
                    The only way you'll get Brexit leaning judges is by appointing some "thickos", and that is very unlikely.

                    As opposed to the Blairites we currently have? Thickos any day. Though tbf, I liked the discussion on the motion vs act.

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                      Originally posted by Platypus View Post
                      I'm pretty sure I didn't say that this was likely
                      So, are you in the habit of making irrelevant points?

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