The Official Brexit Supreme Court thread.

[NotAllThere]

The gov are perusing this to appease unhappy brexiters.

And here's one now.

Possibly, but we enlightened "Leavers" ... (ad infinitum, ad nauseum)

[OwlHoot]

Have to ever heard of "precedent"? If the appeal is lost, the verdict can be used in future cases, which means in theory any government can be challenged in court using this ruling as a precedent. Christ, I wish I'd been a lawyer, they must be all raking it in, and most of them don't care who wins, they still get paid.

The precedent for this was set centuries ago. Basically, what parliament votes for (in this case the EEC Act of 1974) only Parliament can undo. I mean that's why the English Civil War was fought and why Charles I lost his head.

Obviously it muddies the water that the "executive" (what used to be called a ministry) comprises pretty much entirely MPs. But wearing their ministerial hats they act on behalf of the Crown rather than Parliament.

God knows, I'm an ardent Brexiter, but I really can't see how anyone with even a vague understanding of the British constitution and thinking straight can justly claim the Supreme Court got it wrong this time, irritating though the court's conclusion may be.

[SueEllen]

maybe the bremoaners will winn.

Then all those treaties we signed via royal prerogative come undone..

Rome, Maastricht, Lisbon......

Nope.

[PurpleGorilla]

Possibly, but we enlightened "Leavers" know full well who is to blame for all this, it's the Remoaners, the sore losers, who only trust the will of the people when the people do as they are supposed to. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if the EU were in some way helping to fund this "Kill Article 50 Campaign" or whatever it's called, or helping it in some other way.

There is undoubtably an element of this.

I find it hard to accept that Major and Brown can sign us up to the EU but TM can't sign us out.

I think A50 will be triggered by next summer.

I think the HOP can debate all they like, the only deal is the one the EU will give us, and that is no deal. I do think we will hard Brexit, with no transition. Cold turkey on 10% tariffs, and no arm bands. We will be fine, and the rest of the EU will be gobsmacked at our success.

[Paddy]

Incompetence and stupidity.

A QC once said to me “It is easy to litigate using other people’s money”. If it was May’s own money she wouldn’t do it

[SueEllen]

There is undoubtably an element of this.

I find it hard to accept that Major and Brown can sign us up to the EU but TM can't sign us out.

I think A50 will be triggered by next summer.

I think the HOP can debate all they like, the only deal is the one the EU will give us, and that is no deal. I do think we will hard Brexit, with no transition. Cold turkey on 10% tariffs, and no arm bands. We will be fine, and the rest of the EU will be gobsmacked at our success.

Signing a treaty is different to repealing an act of parliament. One is foreign affairs while the other is domestic affairs.

If Parliament didn't want a say they would have added to the referendum act a clause that would mean the government would not have to consult with them if the answer was "No" but they didn't.

Oh and if we take long enough the EU will implode.

[Paddy]

Signing a treaty is different to repealing an act of parliament. One is foreign affairs while the other is domestic affairs.

If Parliament didn't want a say they would have added to the referendum act a clause that would mean the government would not have to consult with them if the answer was "No" but they didn't.

Oh and if we take long enough the EU will implode.

In fact the argument is that it is more than a treaty as it integrates society and business.

[ClothCap]

EU implosion is imminent now. What will the remnants do then I wonder?

[SueEllen]

EU implosion is imminent now. What will the remnants do then I wonder?

Make friends with Russia, Poland, France and Ireland and hope there isn't a war...

[NotAllThere]

EU implosion is imminent now. What will the remnants do then I wonder?

Hiding in my Swiss nuclear bunker.