[Merged]Brexit stuff (part 2)

[d000hg]

"Could" These people got it wrong about the immediate aftermath of Brexit yet they have not bothered to explain why they were wrong and thereofore how they are ever to be taken seriously again.

Everyone got everything wrong. Nobody can be trusted; certainly not random people on a forum.

[DodgyAgent]

Everyone got everything wrong. Nobody can be trusted; certainly not random people on a forum.

Unless they do it inadvertently

[BlasterBates]

"Could" These people got it wrong about the immediate aftermath of Brexit yet they have not bothered to explain why they were wrong and thereofore how they are ever to be taken seriously again.

Article 50 hasn't actually been triggered, the UK is still firmly in the EU. If you read the treasury forecasts carefully then you would know that EEA membership would mean hardly any shock to the economy. You may recall the Conservative Party conference nearly precipitated an economic crisis, as they struted around pretending to be "Hard" , but the government did an immediate U turn. The government is probably going to announce a transitional deal, which will be the first thing they'll negotiate with the EU. That will effectively kill "Brexit" ("it is Brexit Jim but not as we know it").

[sasguru]

"Could" These people got it wrong about the immediate aftermath of Brexit yet they have not bothered to explain why they were wrong and thereofore how they are ever to be taken seriously again.

1. They could have got it completely wrong and Britain will thrive going forward.
2. They could have got it partly wrong and it will take some time for the problems to be felt.
3. They were substantially right, but exagerrated the short term effects somewhat - because clearly the pound dropped immediately afterwards and only 3 months later, food prices are rising (or portions sizes being cut) and clearly debt is now a problem and clearly the Tories have abandoned balancing the books and clearly everyone's holiday abroad is much more expensive.

Most people believe what their ideology tells them, I believe what the facts and the maths tells me.
We'll find out in the end, won't we?

[DodgyAgent]

Article 50 hasn't actually been triggered, the UK is still firmly in the EU. If you read the treasury forecasts carefully then you would know that EEA membership would mean hardly any shock to the economy. You may recall the Conservative Party conference nearly precipitated an economic crisis, as they struted around pretending to be "Hard" , but the government did an immediate U turn. The government is probably going to announce a transitional deal, which will be the first thing they'll negotiate with the EU. That will effectively kill "Brexit" ("it is Brexit Jim but not as we know it").

I am sorry but there was a great deal of predicted immediate post Brexit vote gloom from the establishment including the treasury, times, guardian, independent and FT that failed to materialise.

[PurpleGorilla]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...e_iOSApp_Other

Hard Brexit it is then. Excellent [emoji48]

[BlasterBates]

Interesting though I suspect a humiliating transitional deal will appear on the table.

[DodgyAgent]

Interesting though I suspect a humiliating transitional deal will appear on the table.

It is interesting that you seem to think that the EU is something to grovel and suck up to

[PurpleGorilla]

It is interesting that you seem to think that the EU is something to grovel and suck up to

All roads lead to Hard Brexit - let's save millions in lawyer fees, and incompetent Civil Servants (who are all pro remain) - and just get on with it.

Hard Brexit to WTO please.

[VectraMan]

To “have your cake and eat it” (or “avoir le beurre et l’argent du beurre” in French)

Have butter and money for butter?

Dict.cc says in German: Man kann nicht auf zwei Hochzeiten gleichzeitig tanzen, or one can't dance two weddings at the same time (something like that).

Clearly we're all too different to be in any sort of union.