[Merged]Brexit stuff (part 2)

[WTFH]

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But you accept the others?

BTW, down Devon, weren't you guys wanting the £350million a week for the NHS, and the £40million a week you and Cornwall got as subsidies as well?

[shaunbhoy]

But you accept the others?

What I am willing to accept is whatever is the best deal that HMG can negotiate for us, warts and all.

BTW, down Devon, weren't you guys wanting the £350million a week for the NHS, and the £40million a week you and Cornwall got as subsidies as well?

I don't think this region had any higher expectations than anywhere else in this regard. Actually, not sure about Cornwall......they can be a bit feisty.

[GB9]

Part of access to the single market is free movement of people.

It's up to the UK Government to put laws in place that allow this with restrictions on who can come over. Other EEA countries do this already.

According to the EU Commission it is but i'm sure their collective arms can be twisted.

Seems like Jezza's bottom lines aren't really applicable. He has no intention of stopping Brexit at all.

[SueEllen]

According to the EU Commission it is but i'm sure their collective arms can be twisted.

Seems like Jezza's bottom lines aren't really applicable. He has no intention of stopping Brexit at all.

No twisting needed.

To go and work in any of the EEA countries or Switzerland you need a job already.

However jobs in some of the countries have to be first advertised in those countries for a period before they can be advertised abroad.

That means you won't get people coming over on the promise of a job they actually have to have a job before they come over.

[GB9]

No twisting needed.

To go and work in any of the EEA countries or Switzerland you need a job already.

However jobs in some of the countries have to be first advertised in those countries for a period before they can be advertised abroad.

That means you won't get people coming over on the promise of a job they actually have to have a job before they come over.

Under one of the existing models. You assume we will fall under the same category. We might but that's not the current intention.

[SueEllen]

Under one of the existing models. You assume we will fall under the same category. We might but that's not the current intention.

The government has no plans so no one knows what the current intention is.

[Old Greg]

Part of access to the single market is free movement of people.

It's up to the UK Government to put laws in place that allow this with restrictions on who can come over. Other EEA countries do this already.

I believe that the EU freedom is the free movement of labour not people. There may be enough in that to facilitate a short term fudge that offers a fig leaf to the government: allow workers to move but disallow benefits etc.

[SueEllen]

I believe that the EU freedom is the free movement of labour not people. There may be enough in that to facilitate a short term fudge that offers a fig leaf to the government: allow workers to move but disallow benefits etc.

Depends on your source I've seen free movement of people and free movement of workers.

Non-EU countries in the single market do the latter which means you are only entitled to move to that country once you have a job. Also you are allowed benefits and healthcare if you work in those countries long enough so it is your permanent residence.

The main issue in the UK is people don't have to register with authorities and get an ID card like in other European nations, so even if the fudge is implemented there will be no proper border and other checks on people as there aren't enough border control staff, etc. Tony Blair was trying to bring ID cards in but there was a big backlash.

[scooterscot]

The more and more i read the more and more it becomes obvious wrexit is not happening. At least not in the form it was believed to mean when voters cast their vote.

Parliament are so putting on the brakes and trying to keep it secret )

[Old Greg]

The more and more i read the more and more it becomes obvious wrexit is not happening. At least not in the form it was believed to mean when voters cast their vote.

Parliament are so putting on the brakes and trying to keep it secret )

I don't agree. I t looks as if Article 50 is the problem and is not fit for purpose. We may be heading for a repeal of the European Communities Act 1972 without Article 50, for the hardest of Brexits.