[Merged]Brexit stuff (part 2)

[d000hg]

Anyway most of this discussion is moot.
We're most probably going to have a soft Brexit where we pay to access the single market, with movement of labour (a bit like Switzerland now), not movement of people.
Anything else would have been economic suicide.
But a certain damage has been done already to the UK's political and economic reputation, due to idiots like Johnson.

Will it cost £200m a week or whatever our actual membership cost was?

[original PM]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...erendum-result

Maybe this guy is a stoopid racist too?

[GB9]

Brexit news: Stephen Hawking tells Remain MPs not to subvert EU referendum result | Politics | News | Daily Express

Maybe this guy is a stoopid racist too?

He's an idiot. He wanted to stay in the EU but believes in democracy. The Fool!

Anyone with a modicum of intelligence would know we're all victims of the scam. No matter how much the Brexit supporters talk about remainers, they are refusing to accept the position this country is now in, and are still trying to blame others
Remain didn't win, get over it. Stop harping on about how bad it might have been, what might have happened, etc. Stop blaming remain, and let's see what this promised nirvana that you are cheering on actually turns into. At the minute, it's turning into nothing, hence the need of the elitists who voted for Brexit to do a Trump and spin the story around

The country is in a rather good osition, thank you. EU states are crumbling and we will get a good deal whether Tusk and Merkel like it or not.

Anyway most of this discussion is moot.
We're most probably going to have a soft Brexit where we pay to access the single market, with movement of labour (a bit like Switzerland now), not movement of people.
Anything else would have been economic suicide.
But a certain damage has been done already to the UK's political and economic reputation, due to idiots like Johnson.

Hopefully we will get a medium Brexit where we are part in and part out of a customs union, selecting which sectors we want. We will get control over immigration, probably in the movement of labour as i've been banging on about and as you finally recognise. We'll have to agree to some EU laws to get this and not to some others. This is what the UK Government has been after all along. Looks like that's the way it's going.

[shaunbhoy]

Hopefully we will get a medium Brexit where we are part in and part out of a customs union, selecting which sectors we want. We will get control over immigration, probably in the movement of labour as i've been banging on about and as you finally recognise. We'll have to agree to some EU laws to get this and not to some others. This is what the UK Government has been after all along. Looks like that's the way it's going.

So in short, the kind of arrangement that, had he been any good, Cameron could have achieved for us in the first place.

[GB9]

So in short, the kind of arrangement that, had he been any good, Cameron could have achieved for us in the first place.

Pretty much. And if the EU Commissioners and Merkel weren't arrogant fecks who thought we would buy all their socialist garbage without complaint.

[SueEllen]

Pretty much. And if the EU Commissioners and Merkel weren't arrogant fecks who thought we would buy all their socialist garbage without complaint.

Actually the fault is Camoron's.

He didn't realise to get what you want in the EU you need to convince other countries who feel the same way to back you before you all negotiate with the rest.

In other words you need to play the EU game to get what you want.

Obviously it didn't help having mostly UKIP MEPs in the European parliament who do feck all.

[darmstadt]

Pretty much. And if the EU Commissioners and Merkel weren't arrogant fecks who thought we would buy all their socialist garbage without complaint.

Funny that seeing as Merkel is actually the leader of what you could call the German Conservatives...

[sasguru]

He's an idiot. He wanted to stay in the EU but believes in democracy. The Fool!



The country is in a rather good osition, thank you. EU states are crumbling and we will get a good deal whether Tusk and Merkel like it or not.

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Yeah let's bend over and have an extra hard Brexit because we're mega hard. And our economic position is, as my 7 year old would say, mega good.

Hard Brexit now !

[jamesbrown]

Pretty much. And if the EU Commissioners and Merkel weren't arrogant fecks who thought we would buy all their socialist garbage without complaint.

Likely where they're heading.



Unlikely they'll achieve it, in my view. Obviously, a lot can change in the next few months with events in EU countries, but there will be a strong push within the EU against a grey Brexit. I'm with Tusk on this; there's essentially (hard) Brexit or no Brexit. Either May will fold and face the electorate or she won't. It's going to be interesting to watch, but my money is still on a hard Brexit, regardless of what HMG is planning

[sasguru]

Hopefully we will get a medium Brexit where we are part in and part out of a customs union, selecting which sectors we want. We will get control over immigration, probably in the movement of labour as i've been banging on about and as you finally recognise. We'll have to agree to some EU laws to get this and not to some others. This is what the UK Government has been after all along. Looks like that's the way it's going.

Even better. I apologise I went out and got a bit pissed so I missed this complete cave in from the arch Brexit cretin.

So medium Brexit is what you want eh?

FFS