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    #71
    After Brexit especially with Scotland leaving, it will be a weakened Britain internationally.

    Why the U.S. is freaked out about Brexit - CNNPolitics.com

    And the economic hit the UK will take as it extricates itself from a market that accounts for 44% of its exports could leave it with fewer resources to do its share. The U.S. is itself already feeling the aftershocks -- American stocks were down more than 600 points at the closing bell Friday afternoon.
    Altogether, that could mean a smaller Britain, less able to meet its defense commitments, and it would pose problems for the future of the U.K.'s independent nuclear deterrent, which is based in Scotland and is opposed by the ruling Scottish Nationalist Party.
    I'm alright Jack

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      #72
      Originally posted by original PM View Post
      Jeezuz

      Yes of course they do - they were the same ones who were trying to persuade us to remain - because they knew what is best for us of course.

      O hang on what a second - no they did not think it was best for anyone but themselves.

      If you for one second think that that person gives a flying toot about you you are wrong.
      Of course they don't give a toss about me and you, but neither do many of the Tories who were fronting the leave campaign. Do you really really believe that Boris Johnson, Micheal Gove and Ian 'Bedroom tax' Duncan smith give a hoot about the little man?

      The main issue for Eurosceptic Tories has been political control from Brussels. Going back to Maggie's Bruge speech that's where they main issues with the EU started. They've never had a problem with the single market, and actually support the movement of cheap labour as it' puts up the profits of their corporate backers.

      The trick they've played in this referendum, is to ride the populist anti-immigration tiger to secure a leave vote. Now they've got that they can secure exit from the EU, which means exit from the political control and EU Court of Human rights, while negotiating access to the single market which is what their corporate backers care about. I concede in any final agreement there will be some wishy-washy words about the UK being 'able to apply for a temporary halt to EU migration in exceptional circumstances blah blah blah' but to all intents and purposes our membership of the single market will remain much as it is now(migration and regulations et al). That's at least what I can deduce from the words and Boris and Daniel Hannan so far.

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        #73
        I don't think we will leave, I think there will be another referendum and remain will win.

        My reason are the following -

        1, The Leave victory wasn't a landslide victory. You cannot have over 16 million unhappy voters.

        2, Scotland & Northern Ireland do not want to go, and we cannot force them

        3, The EU 2nd petition is nearly 4 million votes and growing with some notable people signing it including Tony Blair and 500 other MPs

        4, Some of the people who voted to leave are now changing thier minds because -
        There is no £350 million extra for the NHS,
        No change in immigration
        Communities that were a beneficiary of EU money have now realized the there may not be any money coming in and that the Goverment may not make the shortfall

        Guarantees wanted over the future of European millions - Yorkshire Post

        https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...backing-brexit

        Cornwall issues plea to keep EU funding after voting for Brexit | Home News | News | The Independent

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          #74
          Originally posted by TOSH1 View Post
          3, The EU 2nd petition is nearly 4 million votes and growing with some notable people signing it including Tony Blair and 500 other MPs. Apparently a Mr M Mouse & Mr D Duck did as well.
          FTFY

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            #75
            Originally posted by TOSH1 View Post
            I don't think we will leave, I think there will be another referendum and remain will win.

            My reason are the following -

            1, The Leave victory wasn't a landslide victory. You cannot have over 16 million unhappy voters.

            2, Scotland & Northern Ireland do not want to go, and we cannot force them

            3, The EU 2nd petition is nearly 4 million votes and growing with some notable people signing it including Tony Blair and 500 other MPs

            4, Some of the people who voted to leave are now changing thier minds because -
            There is no £350 million extra for the NHS,
            No change in immigration
            Communities that were a beneficiary of EU money have now realized the there may not be any money coming in and that the Goverment may not make the shortfall

            Guarantees wanted over the future of European millions - Yorkshire Post

            https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...backing-brexit

            Cornwall issues plea to keep EU funding after voting for Brexit | Home News | News | The Independent
            Good luck with that.

            We can force them as we are currently a United Kingdom and voted as such. If they want to leave then let them. A couple of smaller nations can't stop larger nations.

            We've just had a vote of 33 million people. 4m is irrelevant. And the petition is being investigated for fraud.

            We've seen the lies that the Remain campaign put forward. Apparently we are in a position of strength and don't need an emergency budget. So the forecast disaster hasn't happened.

            Still a lot of losers at the denial stage, inventing reasons why it hasn't / won't happen.

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              #76
              Originally posted by GB9 View Post
              So the forecast disaster hasn't happened.

              .
              You seen the news recently? On Friday we went from being the 5th largest economy to the 6th largest.
              Who do you think is going to be daft enough to invest in the UK over the next few years?
              The Leave campaign slogan should have been "Poor but free".

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                #77
                Originally posted by TOSH1 View Post

                The EU 2nd petition is nearly 4 million votes and growing with some notable people signing it including Tony Blair and 500 other MPs
                This petition is being investigated for fraud. There are some genuine UK signatures (believed to be around 400k) but most have been made in other countries .. disgruntled Bremainers were/are sending UK postcodes to accomplices via twitter to allow them to complete the signature.





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                  #78
                  Originally posted by dx4100 View Post
                  Many companies plan to impose Brexit hiring freeze - BBC News

                  It all going to fine... Unless you actually want a job...
                  I have Just accepted a 9 month role for 700 a day in infrastructure architecture so its not like the market is in flames. PS the role was offered and accepted after Thursdays results.

                  Its time for reality to take over from the ******* that are sat in news rooms trying to make up the next doom story because doom sells more than fat git from the west country booms

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by bobspud View Post
                    I have Just accepted a 9 month role for 700 a day in infrastructure architecture so its not like the market is in flames. PS the role was offered and accepted after Thursdays results.
                    Price of a cuppa just went up to £12. So er good luck with that.
                    "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
                      Price of a cuppa just went up to £12. So er good luck with that.
                      Don't worry Witherspoon's said that it won't affect their beer prices so I will just drink that until the hysteria has died down.

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