Brexit rebellion building in Parliament

[dx4100]

If it had been a victory by a single vote it would have been clear.

If not then we haven't been governed by anyone with a clear mandate for a very long time.

The referendum is over. We can keep on spinning bulltulip or we can talk about the reality of the world we now find ourseleves in.

If you think there is a clear mandate for anything other than a "exit" then your going to be quite pissed off for the next two plus years...

[GB9]

Many companies plan to impose Brexit hiring freeze - BBC News

It all going to fine... Unless you actually want a job...

And if you want to believe that then do so.

We were due an emergency budget and 25% fall in the stock market. Waiting........

[sirja]

One of the main reasons i voted out was because I wanted to not have to care about what a bunch of seemingly untouchable people based 1000's of miles from where I live had to say about the way the I should act.

Nobody said we do not want to trade - that is just stupid and unless anyone has a genuine reason why not then lets continue under the current trade agreements - they must work for everyone or else surely the EU would not have allowed them - however if any of the countries in the EU wish to renegotiate a different trade deal with the UK then we should certainly talk to them to come to a mutually beneficial arrangement.

Same for the movement of labour - I did not vote to stop 'foreigners coming into our country and taking our jobs' I voted to try and stem the movement of people who for whatever reason were unable to support themselves or integrate into UK society.

I think what this vote clearly showed is that the current champagne socialist Labour party are very very far out of touch with their supposed voters - the Labour party need to understand that they should actually be representing you white van man with a tattoo who likes a few beers and a kebab - but who also is happily married with 2 kids and is trying to do an honest job earning an honest living and is struggling because his home town is constantly having increased pressure put on it by the movement of people.

Those who eat mung bean quiche and drink moccachoccachino's who campaign for this but then go and live in their little cottage in the Cotswolds and so never see the impact of what they vote for to try and appease the sense of guilt they have for living off daddy's capitalist earned money need to understand that labour is not the party for them - they need to form their own party which campaigns for equal rights for everyone and screw the large corporations.

Also Sturgeon - surely you head says no but your nuts say go?

Well based on the new tune is Boris is singing, the UK will still be part of the single market, so will still have to accept all the rules of said market. Sorry but you'll still be subjected to rules made far away, the only difference is now you don't get any say in the formulation of those rules. Seems the working class have been screwed over once again.

[GB9]

Well based on the new tune is Boris is singing, the UK will still be part of the single market, so will still have to accept all the rules of said market. Sorry but you'll still be subjected to rules made far away, the only difference is now you don't get any say in the formulation of those rules. Seems the working class have been screwed over once again.

Don't think that's going to happen. And don't believe only the working class voted out just because the Guardian says so.

[Old Greg]

Well based on the new tune is Boris is singing, the UK will still be part of the single market, so will still have to accept all the rules of said market. Sorry but you'll still be subjected to rules made far away, the only difference is now you don't get any say in the formulation of those rules. Seems the working class have been screwed over once again.

That's false consciousness for you.

[BlasterBates]

And if you want to believe that then do so.

We were due an emergency budget and 25% fall in the stock market. Waiting........

hmm looks like you're still at stage 1

[sirja]

And if you want to believe that then do so.

We were due an emergency budget and 25% fall in the stock market. Waiting........

The real choas in the markets only comes once the govt makes it clear that's its leaving not just the EU but the single market. That's what Gove said they would do, but of course today we see Boris singing a different tune. As long as the UK is in the single market in whatever form the markets will be fine. Of course being in the single market, means paying into the EU budget (oops no 350 Million for the 'NHS'), accepting all EU regulations (oops sorry but you still can't have those bendy bananas) and of course free movement of labor(Sorry working class people but the poles and Romanians are'nt going anywhere).

[sirja]

Don't think that's going to happen. And don't believe only the working class voted out just because the Guardian says so.

Really?

Leading bosses press the Government to secure continued access to European single market

[original PM]

Really?

Leading bosses press the Government to secure continued access to European single market

Jeezuz

Yes of course they do - they were the same ones who were trying to persuade us to remain - because they knew what is best for us of course.

O hang on what a second - no they did not think it was best for anyone but themselves.

If you for one second think that that person gives a flying toot about you you are wrong.

[meridian]

One of the main reasons i voted out was because I wanted to not have to care about what a bunch of seemingly untouchable people based 1000's of miles from where I live had to say about the way the I should act.

Serious question: which of the EU laws and regulations, not also approved by the UK parliament, do you not like, and why? How do their laws influence the way you act?

Nobody said we do not want to trade - that is just stupid and unless anyone has a genuine reason why not then lets continue under the current trade agreements - they must work for everyone or else surely the EU would not have allowed them - however if any of the countries in the EU wish to renegotiate a different trade deal with the UK then we should certainly talk to them to come to a mutually beneficial arrangement.

That's a nice sentiment, but unfortunately it doesn't work that way in reality. All of the trade agreements will need to be rewritten. Yes, they may be exactly the same as they are now, or they may be more beneficial, or they may be worse. Trade will continue until they change, though.

Same for the movement of labour - I did not vote to stop 'foreigners coming into our country and taking our jobs' I voted to try and stem the movement of people who for whatever reason were unable to support themselves or integrate into UK society.

Which EU foreigners are unable to integrate into UK society? Generally I've found the Polish, Germans, French, Italians, Irish, Spanish very easy going and well able to integrate. Can you narrow your statement down to a particular nationality, or is it just rhetoric? Or do you mean brown people instead?

As for "unable to support themselves", the latest statistics I can find show that only 2.4% of total DWP claimants were EU non-UK nationals. I have no idea what the reciprocity of this is and how many Brits are claiming the EU equivalent on the continent, but it seems that the notion of Johnny Foreigner coming over here and claiming benefits is a bit of a myth.