Asked to complete daily timesheet for WFH

[d000hg]

This has been suggested/requested by the PM, not out of suspicious motives but I think simply because he feels a bit out of the loop what I'm working on as I am WFH for weeks on end.
When I say timesheet I mean more an informal report than anything which would get signed off... like a daily check-in really.


Is this an IR35 danger (D&C) or is it simply common courtesy to let the PM know what I'm doing in a way that suits his needs? It's actually something the permies don't do but then they don't get to WFH either.

[Bunk]

This has been suggested/requested by the PM, not out of suspicious motives but I think simply because he feels a bit out of the loop what I'm working on as I am WFH for weeks on end.
When I say timesheet I mean more an informal report than anything which would get signed off... like a daily check-in really.


Is this an IR35 danger (D&C) or is it simply common courtesy to let the PM know what I'm doing in a way that suits his needs? It's actually something the permies don't do but then they don't get to WFH either.

I would say it's fine. Think of it more as a breakdown of costs for what you're charging. I've looked over these with clients to help them decide if an agency or consultancy is trying to pull a fast one. If a builder etc. just gave you a bill with a number on it at the end of the job you'd expect a more detailed report. I see this as the same sort of thing, a bit of a pain but not an IR35 pointer IMHO.

[kingcook]

This has been suggested/requested by the PM, not out of suspicious motives but I think simply because he feels a bit out of the loop what I'm working on as I am WFH for weeks on end.
When I say timesheet I mean more an informal report than anything which would get signed off... like a daily check-in really.


Is this an IR35 danger (D&C) or is it simply common courtesy to let the PM know what I'm doing in a way that suits his needs? It's actually something the permies don't do but then they don't get to WFH either.

There's nothing wrong with providing progress reports, IMHO.

However, I'm not so sure about it being a daily thing though. i.e. "you must provide me with this info every day". Maybe just report that you've finished some small task.

Damn IR35 - we shouldn't have to think about all this 5h1t

[malvolio]

Surely the PM has a project plan (even an Agile one) with your interim objectives and final deliverables listed. So all he needs to know is that you're about to miss one or you've acheived it...

However if he wants yuo to tell him every day the perentage completion of each and every element of your workload then that's fine; as long as he realised it is detrating from your ability to deliver the work.

To answer the original question, though, it's not an IR35 pointer since it isn't D&C, mererly poor project management. And if you do have a list of discrete deliverables, then that's a good thing for IR35 since you clearly aren't any old BoS pseudo-permie.

[northernladuk]

What everyone else says. WFH is so badly managed in a lot of organisations nowadays there is nothing wrong with managing it regardless of the need for project status reporting. If I was paying a 3rd party to work remotely I would most certainly expect some kind of tracking, plus regular project updates.

I would be happy to comply if I was in a similar case. I don't see asking what you have done being D&C.

[psychocandy]

2 hours - watching Jeremy Kyle
2 hours - cracking one off
2 hours - sleeping

[DaveB]

2 hours - watching Jeremy Kyle
2 minutes - cracking one off, including clean up
2 hours - sleeping

ftfy

[kingcook]

2 hours - watching Jeremy Kyle
2 hours - cracking one off
2 hours - sleeping

That's only 6 hours Don't forget to add another 2 hours work to make it look like you worked a professional working day.