No To Retro Tax – Campaign Against Section 58 Finance Act 2008

[cojak]

I heard that Gauke thinks he's going to make more than £20 out of us. But I think he's wrong.

On a slightly more serious point, and being very impressed by the Twitter campaign, should we be setting set tags? I was thinking that this Government's approach has always been to stick a label on marginalised groups and then use it to hammer them. Should we use something that calls this into question, e.g. #WHOISTHEREALTAXCHEAT or something? I would be the first to admit, I know nothing about Twitter or hash tagging but we should start sticking labels on them. Any of you tweeters have any advice?

Not a great tag, you only have 140 characters remember. After you've @'ed someone there'll be no room for your message.

[OnYourBikeGB]

Not a great tag, you only have 140 characters remember. After you've @'ed someone there'll be no room for your message.

Lol - see what I mean? Good point.

[SantaClaus]

I disagree - drawing us over the coals is the deterrent. It also opens the door for further retrospective legislation whenever HMRC f**k up.

Agree with Brillo. This legislation is a "punishment" and we're being used to be made an example of. The establishment can't have any Tom, Dick or Harry using tax avoidance. It has to be kept as the preserve of the very rich, lords, politicians, party donors, etc.

[SantaClaus]

I heard that Gauke thinks he's going to make more than £20 out of us. But I think he's wrong.

On a slightly more serious point, and being very impressed by the Twitter campaign, should we be setting set tags? I was thinking that this Government's approach has always been to stick a label on marginalised groups and then use it to hammer them. Should we use something that calls this into question, e.g. #WHOISTHEREALTAXCHEAT or something? I would be the first to admit, I know nothing about Twitter or hash tagging but we should start sticking labels on them. Any of you tweeters have any advice?

Part of the fun of Twitter is trying to get the message across in a short snappy message. We are playing the politicians at their own soundbite game.

Regarding hashtags - #magnacarta and #financebill2014 seemed to work well yesterday.

You can tweet pictures that get the message across and don't use much of your character limit, as per BeenGauked's numerous memes.

When you post a link to a website, it automatically gets shortened too, saving you space.

You can also tweet in multiple messages...

... and just continue on next tweet like this.

If you really want to tweet long messages, there is this:

TwitLonger — When you talk too much for Twitter

but don't expect lazy MPs to click and read it.

Just study BeenGauked's feed as a blueprint for how to use Twitter

[DotasScandal]

Agree with Brillo. This legislation is a "punishment" and we're being used to be made an example of. The establishment can't have any Tom, Dick or Harry using tax avoidance. It has to be kept as the preserve of the very rich, lords, politicians, party donors, etc.

Couldn't have said it better.

www.dotas-scandal.org

[zaphrus]

Agree with Brillo. This legislation is a "punishment" and we're being used to be made an example of. The establishment can't have any Tom, Dick or Harry using tax avoidance. It has to be kept as the preserve of the very rich, lords, politicians, party donors, etc.

I see where you're coming from, and that does seem part of the intent in the way it has been implemented, my point was more along the lines of they could have achieved the reported objectives with prospective legislation, retrospective legislation is very much about being vindictive and setting an example, which again, I think is being done ahead of the next general election to sway voters.

[OnYourBikeGB]

Part of the fun of Twitter is trying to get the message across in a short snappy message. We are playing the politicians at their own soundbite game.

Regarding hashtags - #magnacarta and #financebill2014 seemed to work well yesterday.

You can tweet pictures that get the message across and don't use much of your character limit, as per BeenGauked's numerous memes.

When you post a link to a website, it automatically gets shortened too, saving you space.

You can also tweet in multiple messages...

... and just continue on next tweet like this.

If you really want to tweet long messages, there is this:

TwitLonger — When you talk too much for Twitter

but don't expect lazy MPs to click and read it.

Bar for S58 / DOTAS related matters I don't think I'm going to become a tweeter, lol. But what I was trying to say was should we come up with a few (short) hashtags that plant a label on Gauke / HMRC. The Government / HMRC have worked is to stick a label on us. Should we use a set of tags going forward that calls that label into question and causes pause for thought? We've been labelled tax cheats - #taxcheats if you like. But Gauke is doing a fair bit of cheating with the facts, and maybe a consistent set of tags could point people in the right direction. #FinanceBill2014 worked well for yesterday, but it's not going to interest the casual observer.

I'd be the first to admit, I have no idea if it's a sensible idea or not. I avoid social media like the plague normally. So I'll be quiet now.

[DotasScandal]

I see where you're coming from, and that does seem part of the intent in the way it has been implemented, my point was more along the lines of they could have achieved the reported objectives with prospective legislation, retrospective legislation is very much about being vindictive and setting an example, which again, I think is being done ahead of the next general election to sway voters.

Except it's gonna guarantee a large chunk of their core electorate will sway AWAY from them (see the intro of Robert Venables QC's response to the consultation for a funny read on that theme http://tinyurl.com/omslt8o)

I don't know what genius strategists they have on board but for me these measures scream desperation, and I see a real possibility for them to backfire spectacularly by the time the election comes,

www.dotas-scandal.org

[SantaClaus]

I see where you're coming from, and that does seem part of the intent in the way it has been implemented, my point was more along the lines of they could have achieved the reported objectives with prospective legislation, retrospective legislation is very much about being vindictive and setting an example, which again, I think is being done ahead of the next general election to sway voters.

Agree. We are unlucky to be caught up in a tax avoidance witchunt, which is currently worse than murder.

Also, there is also a long-standing battle between HMRC and Montpelier, hence the vindictiveness of it all, and the ridiculous police search of their premises in the IOM.

[lucozade]

Where are all the signatures!

65,000 cases and only 338 signatures!

Where is everyone?

I was planning in showing this to my MP but with that number he'll surely laugh me out his office.

Anybody else fancy singing and sharing to boost the numbers?

https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitio...-retrospective