No To Retro Tax – Campaign Against Section 58 Finance Act 2008

[OnYourBikeGB]

Scroll down to "Clause 55" and look who was one of the Tory MPs that tabled the amendment back in 2008.

House of Commons Amendments

So, not only did Gauke vote for it then, he actually tabled the amendment.

Of course, that doesn't stop him being a complete hypocrite now.

Gauke's position is an interesting one. On one hand he can't be seen to back down from the position of the Treasury, on the other hand, using the exact wording he used is bound to be picked up on and show him up publicly as a hypocrite. Is he there in his role as Treasury Secretary? He's not 'bound' as he'd have everyone think by the courts decisions, yet he can't be seem to do an about face from the Treasury position. At the same time, despite the letters Brannigan and co have written for him, there must be part of him that still thinks this is wrong. Does he have scope to abstain?

[foolishboy]

Gauke's position is an interesting one. On one hand he can't be seen to back down from the position of the Treasury, on the other hand, using the exact wording he used is bound to be picked up on and show him up publicly as a hypocrite. Is he there in his role as Treasury Secretary? He's not 'bound' as he'd have everyone think by the courts decisions, yet he can't be seem to do an about face from the Treasury position. At the same time, despite the letters Brannigan and co have written for him, there must be part of him that still thinks this is wrong. Does he have scope to abstain?

You are overlooking the fact that your evaluation assumes he has a conscience and a moral compass. These arent qualities that ambitious career political elites possess.
Thank goodness not all politicians fall into that category and are brave enough to stand up for what the right thing to do is even if it limits their own careers. No names mentioned, we know who they are.

[OnYourBikeGB]

You are overlooking the fact that your evaluation assumes he has a conscience and a moral compass. These arent qualities that ambitious career political elites possess.
Thank goodness not all politicians fall into that category and are brave enough to stand up for what the right thing to do is even if it limits their own careers. No names mentioned, we know who they are.

I'm a born optimist. But take a look at his wiki photo, surely the face of an honest, decent man

David Gauke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No ... wait ... maybe not ... That must be a more recent one.

[Ninja]

Moral Compass....My Ar*e

I'm a born optimist. But take a look at his wiki photo, surely the face of an honest, decent man

David Gauke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No ... wait ... maybe not ... That must be a more recent one.

He's out of the same mould as Stephen Timms, a career politician aka a self-serving lying *$%*

[reckless]

This stinks of something much more than someone simply changing their mind - but then we knew this already.

Could it be that he himself had previously made use of a similar arrangement, hence his vehement opposition at the time; and then once in his current position, was able to negotiate with the HMRC?!!
Just drawing a possible analogy with our 'friend' who turned Queen's Evidence at the Human Rights challenge in the court.

Or maybe I am becoming too paranoid about the whole matter!

[DonkeyRhubarb]

Could it be that he himself had previously made use of a similar arrangement, hence his vehement opposition at the time; and then once in his current position, was able to negotiate with the HMRC?!!
Just drawing a possible analogy with our 'friend' who turned Queen's Evidence at the Human Rights challenge in the court.

Or maybe I am becoming too paranoid about the whole matter!

Whatever his own personal views on the matter, or those of the Tory party, it is just too much of a political hot potato to be seen bowing to "tax dodgers". Labour and the press would have a field day with it.

His hands are tied. He did concede in a meeting with a constituent that it was "not HMRC's finest hour" but that's probably about as far as he dare go in criticising the policy.

[d000hg]

Is there a public copy of this X-party letter on t'interweb?

[SantaClaus]

Forum threads on General

Hi all

I don't want to start a discussion about it on this thread...

But could I respectfully ask that members and supporters of NTRT don't engage in debates regarding BN66 on the "General" forum.

The perpetrator of these threads thrives on people replying to him, with the ultimate aim of getting these threads ranking high up in the search engines, by repeating certain keywords and getting lots of comments/views.

So lets just cut off the oxygen that feeds him and (and a few others) by not replying to anything they say. Add them to your ignore list and don't even bother viewing the threads.

Thanks for your support.

Santa

[DonkeyRhubarb]

Is there a public copy of this X-party letter on t'interweb?

MPs' letter to George Osborne: Repeal Section 58 :: Contractor UK

[andytp]

How did they vote before ?

Scroll down to "Clause 55" and look who was one of the Tory MPs that tabled the amendment back in 2008.

House of Commons Amendments

So, not only did Gauke vote for it then, he actually tabled the amendment.

Of course, that doesn't stop him being a complete hypocrite now.

So with this in mind do we know how the committee members voted before ? Is there any way pf seeing that or indeed how any of our MPs (Charles Hendry - Cons) voted ?

andytp