No To Retro Tax – Campaign Against Section 58 Finance Act 2008

[lucozade]

I totally disagree, this is classic Animal farm stuff, they need to be exposed as the people who are saying do what we say, not as we do! IT cant get any worse for us so if we can take some of the F*ckers down with us then why not!!!!!!

What He Said ^^^

[DonkeyRhubarb]

I totally disagree, this is classic Animal farm stuff, they need to be exposed as the people who are saying do what we say, not as we do! IT cant get any worse for us so if we can take some of the F*ckers down with us then why not!!!!!!

Absolutely.

Although personally I'm more interested in taking those responsible for AP down.

[OneUnited]

Absolutely.

Although personally I'm more interested in taking those responsible for AP down.

+1

[slatt]

I totally disagree, this is classic Animal farm stuff, they need to be exposed as the people who are saying do what we say, not as we do! IT cant get any worse for us so if we can take some of the F*ckers down with us then why not!!!!!!

What he said indeed!!!

MPs more than deserve a bite if the sh!t sandwich they're serving up to the rest of us. Especially in light of the expenses scandal etc

[BrilloPad]

I really don't think you lot want MPs to be exposed as "aggressive tax avoiders". The electorate are still smarting after the whole MPs' expenses scandal and would be only too ready to stick the boot in again - if MPs are seen to be doing the same as contractors, it is contractors who will be tarnished not MPs who will be saved... they may look after each other while it's a secret but the moment anyone gets exposed they will be thrown under the bus.

Disagree. They will look after themselves. And save us in the process.

The debate has moved on from avoidance. Its about retrospection.

[OnYourBikeGB]

I really don't think you lot want MPs to be exposed as "aggressive tax avoiders". The electorate are still smarting after the whole MPs' expenses scandal and would be only too ready to stick the boot in again - if MPs are seen to be doing the same as contractors, it is contractors who will be tarnished not MPs who will be saved... they may look after each other while it's a secret but the moment anyone gets exposed they will be thrown under the bus.

'you lot'? wtf? As in 'Oi! You lot down there!'?

We have had the boot stuck into us, and it looks very unlikely that we will survive it. We have every right to expect that those who judged us are judged in exactly the same way. This is not about getting us off the hook, this is about equality under the law and if they score some embarrassing own goals, who can blame us for taking some pleasure from it? Those who haven't been on the receiving end of what we have received from all sides, not just MPs, may not understand, but I've stopped giving a tulip about their opinions.

[BrilloPad]

IT cant get any worse for us

Nail right on the head there.

[OnYourBikeGB]

I wonder who is leaking the names of all these celebrities and prominent people?

That's an interesting question.

[d000hg]

On the contrary... we want people in the public eye to receive the same treatment as us.

If not, we want to know why not?

So you'd rather lose whatever slim chance you have of success, and do the same for thousands of other victims, merely for vengeance against a few dozen MPs?

Disagree. They will look after themselves. And save us in the process.

The debate has moved on from avoidance. Its about retrospection.

That wasn't what happened with expenses. As soon as it was evident they couldn't sweep it under the rug, the government went on the offensive against the offenders in order to save face.

If MPs get in the public eye for tax avoidance and then you lot are tarred with the same brush, you lose whatever shred of credibility you have left. More to the point, you lose any chance to have public opinion on your side. Of recent weeks you've all been seeing how Twitter can be quite powerful, and seeing some cautious support... that will end if the public realise you're using the same "dirty tricks" as MPs.

The time to dig dirt on MPs et al was before the decisions were made, when they had more chances to forget the whole thing. That would be pretty unlikely now, it's surely gone too far fr them to do an about-face?

If you really think "it can't get any worse" and you've lost, then that doesn't tie in with all this BeenGauked stuff.

[lucozade]

So you'd rather lose whatever slim chance you have of success, and do the same for thousands of other victims, merely for vengeance against a few dozen MPs?


That wasn't what happened with expenses. As soon as it was evident they couldn't sweep it under the rug, the government went on the offensive against the offenders in order to save face.

If MPs get in the public eye for tax avoidance and then you lot are tarred with the same brush, you lose whatever shred of credibility you have left. More to the point, you lose any chance to have public opinion on your side. Of recent weeks you've all been seeing how Twitter can be quite powerful, and seeing some cautious support... that will end if the public realise you're using the same "dirty tricks" as MPs.

The time to dig dirt on MPs et al was before the decisions were made, when they had more chances to forget the whole thing. That would be pretty unlikely now, it's surely gone too far fr them to do an about-face?

If you really think "it can't get any worse" and you've lost, then that doesn't tie in with all this BeenGauked stuff.

Personally I don't give a crap about what the public think.

If MPs are getting away with it and not punished then I want the same treatment.

End of story.

The public can cry all they want but if us and MPs did nothing illegal then it's time to stop chasing after us.