Foul and abusive language by project manager at client

[AussieDigger]

Recently had an experience where I was verbally abused by the project manager for a mistake that he created - was at a big financial services client of the swampy variety. Not sure what to do about it and whether to complain to the client (as he is a contractor) as their code of conduct says abusive language isn't tolerated.

Can I take any separate action against the Project Manager themselves, like report it to the police as an assault ?

[northernladuk]

How about grow some kahuna's and deal with it?

People shouldn't do this and it can really offend some shy, ladylike types but sometimes situations can get heated and some swearing starts.

The line between a toughth meeting and abuse vary's person by person and yes lets be honest it shouldn't happen and it isn't very professional but it does and I like to think I have big enough shoulders to deal with it and move on.

If it is just once then let it lie. If it carries on you can mention to his line manager but you cannot go to the police.

[AussieDigger]

How about grow some kahuna's and deal with it?

People shouldn't do this and it can really offend some shy, ladylike types but sometimes situations can get heated and some swearing starts.

The line between a toughth meeting and abuse vary's person by person and yes lets be honest it shouldn't happen and it isn't very professional but it does and I like to think I have big enough shoulders to deal with it and move on.

If it is just once then let it lie. If it carries on you can mention to his line manager but you cannot go to the police.

BTW, some of the crap that you post here makes me want to swear and abuse you so are you sure you are just reaping what you sow in the workplace as well?

Do you practice being a w****r or does it come naturally ? If you've got nothing intelligent to say or offer useful advice why bother saying anything you moron. Why must you conduct personal attacks on people asking fair comments ? Makes you look like a total plonker.

[northernladuk]

Do you practice being a w****r or does it come naturally ? If you've got nothing intelligent to say or offer useful advice why bother saying anything you moron. Why must you conduct personal attacks on people asking fair comments ? Makes you look like a total plonker.

OMG OMG OMG I have been verbally abused. Call the rozzers...

The only thing I think that has made me a plonker is that it is the other Aussie poster that posts most of the drivel but still...

And no.. it has taken a lot of practice to be this good. This skill does not come naturally.

Advice still stands but to re-dress the balance I shall remove the comments aimed at the other Aussie...

[carlosLondon]

OMG OMG OMG I have been verbally abused. Call the rozzers...

The only thing I think that has made me a plonker is that it is the other Aussie poster that posts most of the drivel but still...

And no.. it has taken a lot of practice to be this good. This skill does not come naturally.

Advice still stands but to re-dress the balance I shall remove the comments aimed at the other Aussie...

[northernladuk]

On a serious note... My take on it is to think about the situation and what levels you can deal with. Some people swear and are arrogant <cough>, it is unprofessional and there is rarely a call for it but the bottom line is it happens and we are not children.

The question you have to ask yourself is what is your limit? I will tell you where I draw the line, the rest is up to you...

The C word - You don't use the C word at work, particularly in front of women... ever!! If someone drops the C bomb I walk out. I have done a few times and still will. No need for that at all.

A screaming argument where we are all shouting and effing and jeffing about work issues etc - It happens, can get a bit ugly but occasionally I don't have a problem.

I cockup and get a bollocking from someoene that swears - I can take it if I am due it. Water off a ducks back.

People having an opinion of me - If someone thinks I am a dog sh**ing f*****g w*****r then that is their opinion. I can live with that. I am not everyones cup of tea

Heavy, unjustified personal abuse - I stand up, advise the person doing it that this is not professional and I will talk when he has calmed down and then leave the room. This normally shames the person so badly it never happens again.

I have never felt the need to report anyone for their actions yet. If they do this alot they will get in to more than enough trouble themselves so just let them reap what they sew.

Hope that helps.

[cojak]

Recently had an experience where I was verbally abused by the project manager for a mistake that he created - was at a big financial services client of the swampy variety. Not sure what to do about it and whether to complain to the client (as he is a contractor) as their code of conduct says abusive language isn't tolerated.

Can I take any separate action against the Project Manager themselves, like report it to the police as an assault ?

I would report it to their permie manager more in sorrow than in
anger, pointing out that it's not very professional of the guy and allude to the fact that he's not coping terribly well with the pressure and is there anything that you can do to help?

Revenge takes many forms.

Oh, and don't bother applying for any IB contracts, you wouldn't last the day...

(added the bold as you forgot you weren't just asking contract-wise...)

[AussieDigger]

On a serious note... My take on it is to think about the situation and what levels you can deal with. Some people swear and are arrogant <cough>, it is unprofessional and there is rarely a call for it but the bottom line is it happens and we are not children.

The question you have to ask yourself is what is your limit? I will tell you where I draw the line, the rest is up to you...

The C word - You don't use the C word at work, particularly in front of women... ever!! If someone drops the C bomb I walk out. I have done a few times and still will. No need for that at all.

A screaming argument where we are all shouting and effing and jeffing about work issues etc - It happens, can get a bit ugly but occasionally I don't have a problem.

I cockup and get a bollocking from someoene that swears - I can take it if I am due it. Water off a ducks back.

People having an opinion of me - If someone thinks I am a dog sh**ing f*****g w*****r then that is their opinion. I can live with that. I am not everyones cup of tea

Heavy, unjustified personal abuse - I stand up, advise the person doing it that this is not professional and I will talk when he has calmed down and then leave the room. This normally shames the person so badly it never happens again.

I have never felt the need to report anyone for their actions yet. If they do this alot they will get in to more than enough trouble themselves so just let them reap what they sew.

Hope that helps.

the c word was used. hence the question of what to do.

[northernladuk]

the c word was used. hence the question of what to do.

I would write it off this time as you missed your opportunity to act IMO.

Next time it is just leave. You show of morality will shame a bully more than going to managers in most cases.

We don't know the exact situation and because of this and it is a one off I would not suggest going to a permie manager. One thing they probably hate more than foul mouthed contractors is moaning contractors that have got small kahunas. Remember you put your manager in a situation where he has to take the other guy to task and won't relish it. Could paint you in a much worse light.

The get out in this is that you said it happened once. Mentally log it and prepare your actions if it happens again. Trying to do something about it now might be too late and counter productive.

I dont' know all the facts but that is my take.

[carlosLondon]

I would write it off this time as you missed your opportunity to act IMO.

Next time it is just leave. You show of morality will shame a bully more than going to managers in most cases.

We don't know the exact situation and because of this and it is a one off I would not suggest going to a permie manager. One thing they probably hate more than foul mouthed contractors is moaning contractors that have got small kahunas. Remember you put your manager in a situation where he has to take the other guy to task and won't relish it. Could paint you in a much worse light.

The get out in this is that you said it happened once. Mentally log it and prepare your actions if it happens again. Trying to do something about it now might be too late and counter productive.

I dont' know all the facts but that is my take.

I think I use the c word quite easily...my first language is not English, so I find it quite amusing how shocked people seem when I use it. However, I understand it's a very strong swear word so I wouldn't use it at work/let anyone refer to me using it. I use Spanish when I need to swear in the office, colleagues think it's funny.