P35 Question 6

[Pickle2]

All they can realistically do is present the arguments clearly and concisely.

Fair enough, have they done that anywhere? Again, other than 20 page forum ramblings?

You know, "tick No / no if you think this. Or tick yes/ no if you think that. Or yes/yesy if you think the other?" With upsides / downsides to each.

[Pickle2]

Does this provide clues?

From following the flow chart type logic, both a Q6 no/no and a yes/no result in "no further action needed" by the hector drone.

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/pomma...aye43021.htm#7

[rawly]

Does this provide clues?

From following the flow chart type logic, both a Q6 no/no and a yes/no result in "no further action needed" by the hector drone.

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/pomma...aye43021.htm#7

It also says if both answers are 'blank', 'blank' no further action is required...

[malvolio]

Fair enough, have they done that anywhere? Again, other than 20 page forum ramblings?

You know, "tick No / no if you think this. Or tick yes/ no if you think that. Or yes/yesy if you think the other?" With upsides / downsides to each.

Have you read the April 10th* edition of the newsletter yet? And why aren't you having this argument on the PCG fora anyway?



* Yes I know. That's the point.

[Pickle2]

Have you read the April 10th* edition of the newsletter yet? And why aren't you having this argument on the PCG fora anyway?

You need to be a member to get onto the pcg forums.







jokin'

I await the new newsletter with bated breath!

[xoggoth]

No/no although this is a blatant lie and I fully expect to be pursued by the revenue over the £0 due on my £0 earnings. Yet again I sneer at all of you who are not retired - SNEEEER!

[Chugnut]

How are you supposed to answer if you've had two contracts in a year, and one was caught by IR35 and the other wasn't?

Maybe that's a yes/yes. The second yes meaning the company applied the legislation and in one case it didn't apply.

[Ruprect]

They can't, to put it simply. The wording and underlying intentions are so unclear that if the PCG reccomend a given answer and that answer is subsequently shown to be in breach of the law, they (and their directors) would be liable. All they can realistically do is present the arguments clearly and concisely.

FWIW my own opinion (emphatically not the PCG's but based on their research and other sources such as Accountancy Age), would be Yes/No. The risk, IMVHO, is that No/No deliberately mis-states your status as a Service Company (as defined by the SA form in its various incarnations, some of which seem to be different from each other...) and that is illegal: you are required to answer all questions on the SA form truthfully. It is a slight risk, whether or not you wish to take it is up to you.

And I think that's as close as anyone can get to a definitive answer

So let me get this straight - whilst filling in my Company P35, I am required to read guidance for personal tax returns?

[Weltchy]

No/no although this is a blatant lie and I fully expect to be pursued by the revenue over the £0 due on my £0 earnings. Yet again I sneer at all of you who are not retired - SNEEEER!

SNEEZE

[Pondlife]

Current wisdom on PCG is 1. Yes & 2. No if outside IR35 and Yes to both if caught.

What are peoples accountants going with so far?

Out of interest, what with the agents and accountants who post here be putting on theirs?