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    #31
    Originally posted by malvolio View Post

    Agreed. Give the new guys all the data you have (including the SJD spreadsheet) and let them work from there; it's all SJD would have given them anyway. They will no doubt complain about SJD themselves, since passing on data at changeover is not optional.
    Isn't one of the reasons they replaced the spreadsheet with their bespoke online system to prevent people just leaving with all the information?
    Anyone on the new system is going to have some bother if that's down. The spreadsheet did have its advantages.
    See You Next Tuesday

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      #32
      Originally posted by Lance View Post

      Isn't one of the reasons they replaced the spreadsheet with their bespoke online system to prevent people just leaving with all the information?
      Anyone on the new system is going to have some bother if that's down. The spreadsheet did have its advantages.
      One problem with running your own portal is that when you introduce Bank Feeds you enter a whole different world of pain as Offpayroll mentioned yesterday Post | Feed | LinkedIn

      That's actually a big issue because virtually none of the payroll firms seem to be regulated...
      merely at clientco for the entertainment

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        #33
        Originally posted by Lance View Post

        Isn't one of the reasons they replaced the spreadsheet with their bespoke online system to prevent people just leaving with all the information?
        Anyone on the new system is going to have some bother if that's down. The spreadsheet did have its advantages.
        Could be. I gave up with them years ago, so no real idea where they are up to with the technology these days.
        Blog? What blog...?

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          #34
          Originally posted by malvolio View Post

          Agreed. Give the new guys all the data you have (including the SJD spreadsheet) and let them work from there; it's all SJD would have given them anyway. They will no doubt complain about SJD themselves, since passing on data at changeover is not optional.
          I would have moved away ages ago. But if I hadn't and was in this situation, I would act immediately. For all we know the entire SJD, NW et al empire could be in administration any day now. It would be a brave person who said that's not a possible outcome.
          Public Service Posting by the BBC - Bloggs Bulls**t Corp.
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            #35
            Originally posted by Fred Bloggs View Post

            I would have moved away ages ago. But if I hadn't and was in this situation, I would act immediately. For all we know the entire SJD, NW et al empire could be in administration any day now. It would be a brave person who said that's not a possible outcome.
            worst case I think is immaterial as to whether they go into administration.

            It is when you as a customer have no financial data as it's all been munched by whatever attack hit them. And you have no copies of your invoices or receipts. and deadline for company filing is Feb 28. Having to use bank statements to build the books and get an accountant to work it out in 3 weeks. Good luck.

            But you're right. Act immediately as there's no guarantee they haven't lost all your data.
            See You Next Tuesday

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              #36
              The portal appears to be partially back online - after their latest email today, I changed my password as soon as I noticed it was back.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Lance View Post

                worst case I think is immaterial as to whether they go into administration.

                It is when you as a customer have no financial data as it's all been munched by whatever attack hit them. And you have no copies of your invoices or receipts. and deadline for company filing is Feb 28. Having to use bank statements to build the books and get an accountant to work it out in 3 weeks. Good luck.

                But you're right. Act immediately as there's no guarantee they haven't lost all your data.
                Massive vote here in favour of FreeAgent and my own off line doomsday records if all else fails.

                If the accountants get hacked and ransomed, hopefully, the completely segregated FreeAgent system would remain intact.

                If not, then it's back to the off line doomsday records.
                Last edited by Fred Bloggs; 7 February 2022, 14:54.
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Fred Bloggs View Post

                  Massive vote here in favour of FreeAgent and my own off line doomsday records if all else fails.

                  If the accountants get hacked and ransomed, hopefully, the completely segregated FreeAgent system would remain intact.

                  If not, then it's back to the off line doomsday records.
                  This has made look in more detail at what FA offers.
                  I was hoping for ISO 27001 but that appears not to exist.
                  They do have Cyber Essentials Plus, which to my mind is the absolute minimum for a company who I am relying on to protect my data.

                  To be honest I'm less bothered about confidentiality that I am availability and integrity for LTD company books cos I don't really care if they get leaked on the dark web. I do care that they don't get lost.
                  See You Next Tuesday

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                    #39
                    With some good fortune, a colleague convinced me to move my accounts into Xero back in 2020. So at least I still have access to the necessary details.

                    Still pissed that I've paid nearly two years accountancy fees and have nothing to show for it.

                    Hopefully, my new accountant won't charge me too heavily for having to do the entire previous years accounts.

                    What an arse, I should have jumped ship sooner. Not like I've been having good service from SJD for a number of years. I just got stuck with a "better the devil you know" attitude.
                    Last edited by Cr1spy; 7 February 2022, 15:09.
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Cr1spy View Post
                      With some good fortune, a colleague convinced me to move my accounts into Xero back in 2020. So at least I still have access to the necessary details.

                      Still pissed that I've paid a years accountancy fees and have nothing to show for it.

                      Hopefully, my new accountant won't charge me too heavily for having to do the entire previous years accounts.

                      What an arse, I should have jumped ship sooner. Not like I've been having good service from SJD for a number of years. I just got stuck with a "better the devil you know" attitude.
                      If Xero is fully up to date you should able to produce almost everything you need yourself from it. I closed down a Ltd Co last year and did the corporation tax, company house stuff etc.... myself on line without and accountant. I kept everything very simple though to facilitate that.
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