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Is convicted ex accountant Darren Upton practicing?
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Originally posted by mudskipper View PostPersonal comment - Darren Roberts seemed good - personable, friendly and helpful, and gave sound and accurate advice.
When the news broke on here about him being arrested I immediately contacted him to ask what was going on and he told me that it was utter nonsense and that his solicitors were involved with the owners of CUK.
Even after he had been arrested he couldn't stop himself from telling lies.
That man will always be very personable, friendly and helpful.
While he is helping himself to the contents of your bank account.Still InvoicingComment
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Originally posted by blacjac View PostSo did Darren Upton up until the day he went to jail.Comment
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Originally posted by DeludedKitten View PostHaving been with Dynamo for three years or so, I'm torn about whether to stay or go elsewhere or realise that I should just do it myself since I'm not sure I have the trust in the accounting profession any more.
The annoying / sad thing is that Darren gave good advice, and as you have said, the service level at Dynamo has definitely declined since he left (I am getting fed up with having to tell my accountant why they are wrong and I am right!). If he'd come back honestly and openly then I might have given him a second chance as long as he stayed well away from the actual money.
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Originally posted by moggy View PostHaving just read the previous thread from 2010 and seeing a few people giving advice to contractors telling them get out and take your accounts elsewhere as it sounded risky.. i wonder if there was any of those that ignored that advice as the service had always been great.. but then went on to regret it..
Not easy, is it...Blog? What blog...?Comment
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Originally posted by malvolio View PostIt's a personal decision. Do you trust your business to a company that seems to have dropped a clanger with their due diligence or a company that appears to have colluded in helping a known fraudster? Or do you stay with companies who are brave enough to give a time-served fraudster a second chance? If the companies do not have access to your money and you are careful about where you send money yourself, is there actually any risk?
Not easy, is it...Comment
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Originally posted by pr1 View PostGiven the plethora of alternative accountants in the same price bracket I'd say it's pretty easy
For years, posters on this forum (and others) have argued that there is no need to have a local accountant because you never need to see them, you never meet your accountant, and as long as they are on the end of the phone or on an email then it is unimportant about where they are based.
Assuming that the main part of this thread is accurate (and I think it is), then the advice that it doesn't matter becomes poor. I used to have a local accountant who was good (but expensive) - I could meet up with them (and I did), they were on the end of the phone, I could email them. I had a dedicated accountant and I would see him periodically during the year. I then moved to an online accountant, based on the advice of people here and the posts that the accountant made - I trusted them, I had confidence in them, but I never met them and wouldn't be able to pick them out of a lineup if I needed to. After that, I moved to Dynamo with Darren for much the same reason - he gave good advice, he was personable, he seemed trustworthy, but again I never met him and wouldn't (until recently) have any idea what he looked like or be able to identify him.
There are a plethora of alternative accountants in the same price bracket, but whether I trust (m)any of them is the question that I'm struggling with.
At the moment, it's looking more likely than not that it will be DIY from here - at least then I know who is pressing the button in FreeAgent.I'm not fat, I'm just fluffy.Comment
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Originally posted by DeludedKitten View PostHow do you know that any of these plethora are who they say they are?
For years, posters on this forum (and others) have argued that there is no need to have a local accountant because you never need to see them, you never meet your accountant, and as long as they are on the end of the phone or on an email then it is unimportant about where they are based.
Assuming that the main part of this thread is accurate (and I think it is), then the advice that it doesn't matter becomes poor. I used to have a local accountant who was good (but expensive) - I could meet up with them (and I did), they were on the end of the phone, I could email them. I had a dedicated accountant and I would see him periodically during the year. I then moved to an online accountant, based on the advice of people here and the posts that the accountant made - I trusted them, I had confidence in them, but I never met them and wouldn't be able to pick them out of a lineup if I needed to. After that, I moved to Dynamo with Darren for much the same reason - he gave good advice, he was personable, he seemed trustworthy, but again I never met him and wouldn't (until recently) have any idea what he looked like or be able to identify him.
There are a plethora of alternative accountants in the same price bracket, but whether I trust (m)any of them is the question that I'm struggling with.
At the moment, it's looking more likely than not that it will be DIY from here - at least then I know who is pressing the button in FreeAgent.
Either of the above would be enough for me to take my business elsewhere, yes the next place may also be working with a convicted fraudster but I don't know they are.
Checking whether your assigned accountant has a cartoon picture on linkedin would be a nice quick first step that everyone could do!Comment
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Originally posted by pr1 View PostIt's just my opinion, but Dynamo and FB either knew they were working with a convicted fraudster AND DIDN'T DISCLOSE IT, or they didn't know they were working with a convicted fraudster AND NOW THAT THEY KNOW THEY AREN'T COMING CLEAN.
Either of the above would be enough for me to take my business elsewhere, yes the next place may also be working with a convicted fraudster but I don't know they are.
As to the first, if they were up-front about it, and explained what controls they had in place to protect clients, I'd have been fine with that. Second chance and all that. Better that he work than be on benefits, and I'm not opposed to helping with that.
As to the second, if they made a mistake and have thoroughly reviewed to make sure there's been no fraud, and taken steps to make sure it never happened again, I'd probably be fine with that, too. Again, second chance, this time for them.
That's not what happened, though.Comment
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I have a friend(well okay someone I work with) who is with Dynamo and watching this thread very carefully to see who jumps ship.Comment
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