How to deal with discrimination as a contractor

[northernladuk]

Yes unfair maybe and you were helping them out but if they said no WFH and you did so then I guess the manager is just trying to prove a point. Nobhead point of course.

Do you really know what you look and sound like constantly calling clients tossers and nobheads?

[MrMarkyMark]

Do you really know what you look and sound like constantly calling clients tossers and nobheads?

Errrr, about 13, or whatever age he grew "proper" hair?

HTH.

[northernladuk]

Errrr, about 13, or whatever age he grew "proper" hair?

HTH.

I was thinking more along the lines of an unprofessional moron. The only people I hear speaking like that in real life are really disgruntled permies (which I've insinuted all along) or manual labour types who hate management. In summary, people that don't know what they are talking about, NOT professional contractors.

[MrMarkyMark]

I was thinking more along the lines of an unprofessional moron. The only people I hear speaking like that in real life are really disgruntled permies (which I've insinuted all along) or manual labourers. NOT professional contractors.

My clients are welcome to be both tossers and nobheads, actually.
As I work in IB, I usually take this as a given
As long as play nicely by me, personally, pay for the privilege and don't mind a bit of D&C.

[psychocandy]

I was thinking more along the lines of an unprofessional moron. The only people I hear speaking like that in real life are really disgruntled permies (which I've insinuted all along) or manual labour types who hate management. In summary, people that don't know what they are talking about, NOT professional contractors.

yeh yeh yeh.

Professional? When did I ever claim that? ;-)

[psychocandy]

I was thinking more along the lines of an unprofessional moron. The only people I hear speaking like that in real life are really disgruntled permies (which I've insinuted all along) or manual labour types who hate management. In summary, people that don't know what they are talking about, NOT professional contractors.

Does it need pointing out AGAIN that this is an internet forum. I can post on here that I dress up as Princess Leia at the weekend, and have sex with goats and sheep but it means nothing to how I conduct myself at a client site during the week, does it?

I might have my opinions but, again, doesnt mean I tell client what I think to their face, does it?

[LondonManc]

You two are a bit harsh on PC on this point.

His point about no WFH meaning no WFH gets paid is valid. If you're expected to be in, you're expected to be in or you don't get paid. I've seen people deliver what they thought should be delivered rather than what was asked for. Doesn't go down well if it doesn't meet expectations.

[MrMarkyMark]

You two are a bit harsh on PC on this point.

His point about no WFH meaning no WFH gets paid is valid. If you're expected to be in, you're expected to be in or you don't get paid. I've seen people deliver what they thought should be delivered rather than what was asked for. Doesn't go down well if it doesn't meet expectations.

I don't think so

What was actually said was this, whether this clause means you are allowed, or not, is the point here, IMO.
The contract clause suggests that the decision is in the suppliers hands.

There is no allowed to work from home. There is "autonomy to provide services as supplier sees fit". In writing. In a contract.

[northernladuk]

Does it need pointing out AGAIN that this is an internet forum. I can post on here that I dress up as Princess Leia at the weekend, and have sex with goats and sheep but it means nothing to how I conduct myself at a client site during the week, does it?

I might have my opinions but, again, doesnt mean I tell client what I think to their face, does it?

I think you will be surprised. You can put up an act to a certain level but you can't keep the act up all the time. I'd ask why even act. Why not get a better attitude to your work and you won't need to put it on. Calling clients names is at best childish and usually shows you've no idea of what is going on around you. If you don't know you can't handle a situation and make decisions.... Which is abundantly clear.

[northernladuk]

yeh yeh yeh.

Professional? When did I ever claim that? ;-)

Not sure why you think that is a big and clever response.