Public sector IR35 consultation launched

[bobspud]

Think I have found an interesting chink in the armour of this mess...

I was doing some work yesterday and one of the documents that fell out of it was this one:

http://ccs-agreements.cabinetoffice....WR%20Guide.pdf

This document covers the agency worker regulations the interesting part is the section Who does not fall within the scope of the regulations?

Basically it states that the if the hiring manager rather than the managed service provider directs staff it will bring those acting "as a business on their own account" into scope. So by my reckoning if any department is foolish enough to make the blanket statement I control and supervise all my contractors on site then every one that has worked there since the start of the Agency Workers Regulations were introduced will have the right to go and ask for their holiday back pay and money to cover any other benefit that was available to permanent staff...

As usual I don't think that UKHO have thought this through...

[nobody123]

I was doing some work yesterday and one of the documents that fell out of it was this one:

http://ccs-agreements.cabinetoffice....WR%20Guide.pdf

This document covers the agency worker regulations the interesting part is the section Who does not fall within the scope of the regulations?

Basically it states that the if the hiring manager rather than the managed service provider directs staff it will bring those acting "as a business on their own account" into scope. So by my reckoning if any department is foolish enough to make the blanket statement I control and supervise all my contractors on site then every one that has worked there since the start of the Agency Workers Regulations were introduced will have the right to go and ask for their holiday back pay and money to cover any other benefit that was available to permanent staff...

As usual I don't think that UKHO have thought this through...

Very good find... After 12 week (probationary) you are entitled to 28 days annual leave, paternity/maternity leave and potentially sick pay too!!

[bobspud]

Very good find... After 12 week (probationary) you are entitled to 28 days annual leave, paternity/maternity leave and potentially sick pay too!!

But only if the department gets unreasonable and tells you that they are in charge and you are a direct report...

[Old Greg]

On the plus side, public sector IR35 rules + fall in GBP is shaping up nicely for my plans to import UK contractors into Ireland.

[mudskipper]

IPSE webinar on the proposed reforms at lunchtime today

https://www.ipse.co.uk/events/tue-11...sector-webinar

I believe it's open to non-members too.

[eek]

On the plus side, public sector IR35 rules + fall in GBP is shaping up nicely for my plans to import UK contractors into Ireland.

The fall in the pound made pricing the products I'm planning to sell very easy. £=$=euro

[DotasScandal]

IPSE webinar on the proposed reforms at lunchtime today

Fantastic waste of time. If there's one thing IPSE doesn't ever disappoint with, it's their consistency in being useless.

[eek]

Fantastic waste of time. If there's one thing IPSE doesn't ever disappoint with, it's their consistency in being useless.

I didn't waste my time. How bad was it and what facts that we understand have they still not grasped.

[mudskipper]

Fantastic waste of time. If there's one thing IPSE doesn't ever disappoint with, it's their consistency in being useless.

I found it informative and helpful. Each to their own. It was not aimed at people who have already studied the document in detail, it was to inform those who haven't. As such, I think it served a useful purpose.

[northernladuk]

I found it informative and helpful. Each to their own. It was not aimed at people who have already studied the document in detail, it was to inform those who haven't. As such, I think it served a useful purpose.

Indeed. Haters gonna hate.