Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella
View Post
Ok guys please stop panicking - nothing has happened yet and no amount of worrying will change what is going to happen
HMG had a pretty much unprecedented response to the T&S consultation with lots of organisations both contracting industry and big business giving a multitude of reasons why this is a really bad idea; HMRC may moderate the proposals, they may decide to think about it all for a bit longer, they may scrap the proposal altogether or they may just bring it in in its entirety.
Contractors are needed - this industry has only grown the way it has because of supply and demand and demand has increased because it is now so expensive to employ permies and employers are subject to increased risks of litigation. Pensions auto-enrolment, changes to holiday pay rules, flexible working, Statutory payments etc etc all add up so companies are increasingly looking to a temporary workforce to fill the gaps in their skillset. I think that clientco will be persuaded to cough up for at least some travel costs to be able to keep contractors on their books rather than recruiting permies or workers under FTC's - I could well be wrong but I run a business and, if I need someone for a project for a few weeks, I would be happy to pay 10% more than I paid for the same thing last year just for the convenience.
With regard to the IR35 changes - I think that what was 'leaked' was a consultation document; if that is the case then the consultation will probably not be undertaken until the early part of next year which means that any changes will probably be introduced in 2017 rather than next year. If that is the case then I suggest that as many of you as possible get along to the consultation so that you can give HMRC your views face to face - in a meeting that we had with them this year they said that they believed contractors didn't really care what went on - the 700 responses we ended up sending to them for the T&S consultation will hopefully gone some way to changing their minds but it can't just be a one off. We have to show them that we do care and we have to keep on until they get that there is a big difference between a contractor and a temp!
HMG had a pretty much unprecedented response to the T&S consultation with lots of organisations both contracting industry and big business giving a multitude of reasons why this is a really bad idea; HMRC may moderate the proposals, they may decide to think about it all for a bit longer, they may scrap the proposal altogether or they may just bring it in in its entirety.
Contractors are needed - this industry has only grown the way it has because of supply and demand and demand has increased because it is now so expensive to employ permies and employers are subject to increased risks of litigation. Pensions auto-enrolment, changes to holiday pay rules, flexible working, Statutory payments etc etc all add up so companies are increasingly looking to a temporary workforce to fill the gaps in their skillset. I think that clientco will be persuaded to cough up for at least some travel costs to be able to keep contractors on their books rather than recruiting permies or workers under FTC's - I could well be wrong but I run a business and, if I need someone for a project for a few weeks, I would be happy to pay 10% more than I paid for the same thing last year just for the convenience.
With regard to the IR35 changes - I think that what was 'leaked' was a consultation document; if that is the case then the consultation will probably not be undertaken until the early part of next year which means that any changes will probably be introduced in 2017 rather than next year. If that is the case then I suggest that as many of you as possible get along to the consultation so that you can give HMRC your views face to face - in a meeting that we had with them this year they said that they believed contractors didn't really care what went on - the 700 responses we ended up sending to them for the T&S consultation will hopefully gone some way to changing their minds but it can't just be a one off. We have to show them that we do care and we have to keep on until they get that there is a big difference between a contractor and a temp!
You guys are so sweet 
Comment