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Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishing -
Originally posted by d000hg View PostHow many times... use Desktop mode if you want traditional Windows rather than mobile-style tiles.Comment
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Abject failure!
Restarted with an added disk, set the thing off but now it wants 20GB free disk space.
It has completely ignored the extra 40GB disk I've just given it.Behold the warranty -- the bold print giveth and the fine print taketh away.Comment
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Originally posted by AtW View PostBut I can't really because the system forces you back to Metro when, say you press Windows Start button on keyboard - essentially they are forcing everybody to be exposed to Metro which will be the initial starting point.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostNo, they're forcing you to use a Metro-style start menu only. Think of it as a big ugly new Start menu.
There are no technical reasons why they could not have kept Start buttin in desktop and avoid making people go to Metro if they do not want to. Frankly this tulip was started with Office 2007 and that Ribbon crap and now same attitude towards paying users has moved over to main OS.Comment
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Originally posted by AtW View PostWhy should I be forced to do anything when I pay them money for supposedly new better product?Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostFrom a software developer, that really is a stupid question/comment. EVERY single software application forces users to work in a certain way. Including your M12 software... it forces me to work the way you decided is best.
You might be a developer but you certainly don't understand how to run a proper business which has got established customer base - it needs to be kept happy in order to secure recurring payments especially in cases when it is a one off software sale rather than subscription. In this case making a mistake (like with Vista) can cost a LOT - it is totally unnecessary commercialy to force users who are happy with desktop experience to have completely new tablet experience which may or may not work. That's just dumb commercially and I hope stock market will punish Microsoft severely once first new of poor adoption become known.
All they needed to do (just like with Office) is to provide customers with simple toggle - those who don't want Metro tulip or Office ribbons should get what they pay for, this isn't expensive and if you are as software developer object to such essential commercial then you should be fired and spend the rest of your life on the dole.
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Originally posted by Sysman View PostAbject failure!
Restarted with an added disk, set the thing off but now it wants 20GB free disk space.
It has completely ignored the extra 40GB disk I've just given it.
- Use VirtualBox GUI tp clone Win7 to Win8 (only 'cos I want to keep my Win7 installation intact)
- Create a new disk of the required size in VirtualBox
- Make sure the VBoxManage app is in your path (I'd already done this)
- Open up a command prompt and navigate to the directoy where Win8.vdi and the new Win8-bigger-disk.vdi is
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VBoxManage clonehd Win8.vdi Win8-bigger-disk1.vdi --existing
- In the VirtualBox GUI, remove Win8.dvi
- Start 'er up- Contrary to what I said before, there is now a desktop icon "Install Windows"
- Follow the prompts
If I could have been arsed to look it up, I could have done all that from the command prompt.Behold the warranty -- the bold print giveth and the fine print taketh away.Comment
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Originally posted by AtW View PostWe've spent a lot of effort to maintain backwards compatibility for a long of features to ensure customers who've used it 4 years ago still happy to use, in fact we normally just extended and introduced new functionality without removing old which is always readily available.
You might be a developer but you certainly don't understand how to run a proper business which has got established customer base - it needs to be kept happy in order to secure recurring payments especially in cases when it is a one off software sale rather than subscription. In this case making a mistake (like with Vista) can cost a LOT - it is totally unnecessary commercialy to force users who are happy with desktop experience to have completely new tablet experience which may or may not work. That's just dumb commercially and I hope stock market will punish Microsoft severely once first new of poor adoption become known.Behold the warranty -- the bold print giveth and the fine print taketh away.Comment
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Originally posted by AtW View PostWe've spent a lot of effort to maintain backwards compatibility for a long of features to ensure customers who've used it 4 years ago still happy to use, in fact we normally just extended and introduced new functionality without removing old which is always readily available.
All they needed to do (just like with Office) is to provide customers with simple toggle - those who don't want Metro tulip or Office ribbons should get what they pay for, this isn't expensive and if you are as software developer object to such essential commercial then you should be fired and spend the rest of your life on the dole.
Anyone who designs software to let users control every possible option themselves is a programmer working above their level, not a software designer. This kind of approach is endemic in the open-source world and leads to very powerful software with impossibly complicated UI/UX.
AtW you're clearly a 'nuts & bolts' coder, not a UI guy. It comes across in everything you say and until you hired someone a while ago, it was also very evident from the M12 website too.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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