Anyone used PowerBasic or QuickBasic for Windows dev?

[sasguru]

He uses a similar method as myself:
Knock up a working proof of concept/prototype model, then get a developer to rebuild it properly so it won't crash when sneezed at.

Quite. Bob seems quite good but try explaining a GUI to him.

PS.
Thanks for the suggestions AtW and eek. I'll try one of those.

[sasguru]

He needs something more basic.

HTH

Quite. If Bob were physically here I'd use a sheet of A4

[AtW]

Quite. If Bob were physically here I'd use a sheet of A4

That and a few colour crayons to show off your painting skills?

[sasguru]

That and a few colour crayons to show off your painting skills?

Quite.

[d000hg]

There must be GUI mockup tools but I think this is a reasonable approach. AtW this is a professional section not general... also BASIC has formed the basis of many real apps over the decades, laughing at it before knowing the use-case makes you look like a programmer rather than a business owner.

Sas, does Delphi still exist? That would've been a good tool for this.

[PAH]

There must be GUI mockup tools

Yep. Visual Basic.

Or VB.Net and WinForms if you want the modern equivalent.

For a real challenge try VB.Net and WPF.

You can see how M$ have moved the game on by just adding complexity over the years. Visual Basic is a simple drag/drop environment with a bit of event coding, similar to Delphi but without that dirty Pascal.

[eek]

There must be GUI mockup tools but I think this is a reasonable approach. AtW this is a professional section not general... also BASIC has formed the basis of many real apps over the decades, laughing at it before knowing the use-case makes you look like a programmer rather than a business owner.

Sas, does Delphi still exist? That would've been a good tool for this.

It does, Embarcadero Technologies owns it but

1) I think they've buggered it up over the last few years
2)I don't think its the correct tool here as I don't know what the development and target platforms are. If the target platform in Windows creating an interface in VS express that you developer can then attach his code to is going to be the best solution.

Although why the solution is being writing in C++ is an interesting question to ask SAS.

[d000hg]

Yep. Visual Basic.

Or VB.Net and WinForms if you want the modern equivalent.

For a real challenge try VB.Net and WPF.

You can see how M$ have moved the game on by just adding complexity over the years. Visual Basic is a simple drag/drop environment with a bit of event coding, similar to Delphi but without that dirty Pascal.

VB is not a mockup tool. You still have to do programming. I mean tools specifically written for GUI design... although for a communication-challenged developer maybe you need it to be real code.

However I do wonder why Sas doesn't just find a good overseas developer, they exist (I should know, I hire[d] a few C++ guys from E. Europe).

[eek]

However I do wonder why Sas doesn't just find a good overseas developer, they exist (I should know, I hire[d] a few C++ guys from E. Europe).

Because he went for the obvious bob. Mind you a remember discussions on here recently that E Europe developers aren't cheap nowadays (and from my last conversation with them they're not).

[PAH]

VB is not a mockup tool. You still have to do programming.

Depends how much of a working model you want to build.

You can easily mock up a 'screen' or form by dragging/dropping a few items from the toolbox then entering dummy text and property values.

The major benefit being that the output is a true Windows form not some etch-a-sketch that looks like Windows but may not be 100% implementable in Windows. At which point you're at the mercy of the developer having some initiative. Something that Bob isn't well renowned for.